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« Reply #75: February 02, 2018, 05:33:16 PM »
A couple of FG articles suggest having at least some of the league revenues be distributed to reward winning.  It's similar to what the Premier League does.  If there were graduated premiums for finishing top two thirds of your league, you might see teams be more willing to not tank. 

Just imagine how much extra the Nats would have had with near-top records . . .

That may be true on the margins, but in the Premeir League, the real motivation not to tank is relegation. I know it would be impossible in MLB because of how the minors are set up, but man would I love that.

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« Reply #76: February 02, 2018, 05:48:55 PM »
Relegation would solve a lot of issues with relocation and teams in cities that can’t or won’t support them- a city like Austin rises, their ownership can funnel more to their team and rise as a place like Baltimore falls. If nyc can support four teams, great. It would be great for minor league towns because you can root for a promotion instead of hoping a parent club doesn’t pull your stars before playoffs they don’t care about. All of the sudden, you have real teams playing for something in every even moderately sized city

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« Reply #77: February 02, 2018, 07:36:22 PM »
Relegation would solve a lot of issues with relocation and teams in cities that can’t or won’t support them- a city like Austin rises, their ownership can funnel more to their team and rise as a place like Baltimore falls. If nyc can support four teams, great. It would be great for minor league towns because you can root for a promotion instead of hoping a parent club doesn’t pull your stars before playoffs they don’t care about. All of the sudden, you have real teams playing for something in every even moderately sized city

Playing exactly where...The Pfitz?

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« Reply #78: February 02, 2018, 07:43:56 PM »
Playing exactly where...The Pfitz?

:shrug: not every team in English football has aspirations to join the premier league, the Pfz seems appropriate for the equivalent of a semi-pro league

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« Reply #79: February 02, 2018, 07:55:33 PM »
Playing exactly where...The Pfitz?

The "lower soccer teams" have better fields in relation to the top tier than the Pfitz has to the local Pony League team.

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« Reply #80: February 02, 2018, 08:13:21 PM »
RIP Chief Wahoo (after this year). https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/29/sports/baseball/cleveland-indians-chief-wahoo-logo.html

Jim Thome says he wants the block C and not chief Wahoo on his HOF plaque.

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« Reply #81: February 02, 2018, 08:29:30 PM »
Jim Thome says he wants the block C and not chief Wahoo on his HOF plaque.

I like that  ...  subtle.

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« Reply #82: February 05, 2018, 10:54:58 AM »
The "lower soccer teams" have better fields in relation to the top tier than the Pfitz has to the local Pony League team.

...partially because many of the clubs in the lower leagues are former Premier League clubs - e.g. Portsmouth (which a couple of seasons ago almost became the first former Premier League club to fall out of the Football League altogether), the two Sheffield clubs, Coventry, Leeds United etc.

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« Reply #83: February 05, 2018, 11:19:47 AM »
Relegation would solve a lot of issues with relocation and teams in cities that can’t or won’t support them- a city like Austin rises, their ownership can funnel more to their team and rise as a place like Baltimore falls. If nyc can support four teams, great. It would be great for minor league towns because you can root for a promotion instead of hoping a parent club doesn’t pull your stars before playoffs they don’t care about. All of the sudden, you have real teams playing for something in every even moderately sized city

It wouldn't work if the lower level teams were also expected to continue serving as development grounds for the higher levels though. There would be a built-in disincentive to building a strong AAA team, because you might be building your direct competition for the following season.

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« Reply #84: February 05, 2018, 11:31:58 AM »
...partially because many of the clubs in the lower leagues are former Premier League clubs - e.g. Portsmouth (which a couple of seasons ago almost became the first former Premier League club to fall out of the Football League altogether), the two Sheffield clubs, Coventry, Leeds United etc.

I had the Level 8 contestants/clubs in mind.

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« Reply #85: February 05, 2018, 11:35:26 AM »
It wouldn't work if the lower level teams were also expected to continue serving as development grounds for the higher levels though. There would be a built-in disincentive to building a strong AAA team, because you might be building your direct competition for the following season.

That's the problem - transitioning from the current system in baseball of MLB plus farm systems. It's not as straightforward as it would be in MLS since there is no farm system relationship among member clubs (and MLS really does need to go to a multi-tiered league system with promotion/relegation if they're going to keep adding so many expansion clubs every year, like they're doing).

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« Reply #86: February 05, 2018, 11:41:51 AM »
I had the Level 8 contestants/clubs in mind.

You mean the eighth tier of organised football in England (Northern Premier et al)? I'm not aware of any recent Football League members that have fallen that far, but in the sixth tier (Conference North) there is Stockport County, which had been in the League for over a century but were relegated from League Two in 2011 and have since crashed to sixth tier, and who play their home matches at 16,000-seat Edgeley Park.

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« Reply #87: February 05, 2018, 11:54:52 AM »
You mean the eighth tier of organised football in England (Northern Premier et al)? I'm not aware of any recent Football League members that have fallen that far, but in the sixth tier (Conference North) there is Stockport County, which had been in the League for over a century but were relegated from League Two in 2011 and have since crashed to sixth tier, and who play their home matches at 16,000-seat Edgeley Park.

No, I mean Level 8.    Google it.

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« Reply #88: February 05, 2018, 09:39:53 PM »
Todd Frazier to the Mets. 2 years/$17m.

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« Reply #89: February 05, 2018, 11:07:36 PM »
Todd Frazier to the Mets. 2 years/$17m.
And yet his WIFI Network name lives on right here in my apartment building in Cincy.

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« Reply #90: February 06, 2018, 08:32:47 AM »
Todd Frazier to the Mets. 2 years/$17m.
darn that's cheap.  Let's bring in Yu for 3 years, $10MM AAV :lol:

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« Reply #92: February 07, 2018, 12:36:53 PM »
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/02/05/13416/jeff-loria-adds-to-supervillain-status-by-stiffing-miami-on-share-of-marlins-sale/

Great deal for Miami, thank god they put in the profit sharing

As bad as it was for the Expos/Nats to be owned (pillaged) by MLB for those few years, I feel I like we dodged a bullet.  Can you imagine if Selig had permitted a straight up move from Montreal to DC, with Loria still retaining ownership?   :shock:

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« Reply #93: February 07, 2018, 05:06:24 PM »
Yasiel Puig's agent, the Wasserman Agency, has terminated their agreement with Puig. Sources cite a vague "behavior issue."  https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/961357182846558208

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2018)
« Reply #94: February 07, 2018, 06:02:54 PM »
Yasiel Puig's agent, the Wasserman Agency, has terminated their agreement with Puig. Sources cite a vague "behavior issue."  https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/961357182846558208
you think they'll miss Puigy?

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« Reply #95: February 07, 2018, 09:54:39 PM »
Yankees acquire Russell Wilson (yes, THAT Russell Wilson) from the Rangers for cash considerations.


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« Reply #96: February 07, 2018, 11:15:01 PM »
you think they'll miss Puigy?

Omg I love dumb humor :crackup:

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« Reply #97: February 08, 2018, 08:23:04 AM »
Omg I love dumb humor :crackup:
in fairness, it isn't original.  There's someone who posts on Fangraphs as "Little Miss Puigy."

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« Reply #98: February 10, 2018, 03:10:55 PM »
Darvish to the Cubs. Six year deal for $125-150 million. That’s crazy.

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« Reply #99: February 10, 2018, 03:47:19 PM »
Darvish to the Cubs. Six year deal for $125-150 million. That’s crazy.
let's see if there is a spate of signings this week.  6 years seems a lot for his arm, but honestly, I would not have been shocked at that money for 5 years at the start of free agency. 

I wonder if Theo tried to get him to sign a deal like Lackey signed with the Red Sox.  I think it was unique and very team friendly.  Essentially, Lackey gave the Sox a team option at MLB minimum if his arm blew out from a known injury.  It did, they exercised the option, and he was a nice trade chit in 2014 when they cashed out.