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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #900: December 31, 2017, 08:35:13 AM »
Wilmer Difo trade interest= topic you never thought you would see on MLB Radio. But seeing it is Grant Paulsen's  show i guess it is not implausible.

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« Reply #901: December 31, 2017, 09:49:07 AM »
Wilmer Difo trade interest= topic you never thought you would see on MLB Radio. But seeing it is Grant Paulsen's  show i guess it is not implausible.

I assume the discussion was spurred by yesterday's Post article on the rise of Difo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/12/27/next-season-could-be-wilmer-difos-audition-to-be-nationals-future-second-baseman/).  He isn't going anywhere.  He'll likely be starting at 2B at season's open, and could very well be our regular 2B in 2019 and beyond assuming we don't resign Murphy.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #902: December 31, 2017, 09:51:19 AM »
I think there is a package to deal for Realmuto, which would make good sense since he is controlled until 2020 and projects to be at least a league average bat with good defense, but awful framing skills, worse than Wieters bad. From BRef, it seems that LF is only slightly worse as a whole than C across the board.

It seems that the new luxury tax system under the new CBA is going to constrain us (and others) from going over the cap.  That means we aren't going to be able to take on Realmuto's salary, and I can't imagine anyone would take on Wieter's unless we pay for it in prospects.  That means a ridiculous overpay for Realmuto.

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« Reply #903: December 31, 2017, 11:03:31 AM »
I assume the discussion was spurred by yesterday's Post article on the rise of Difo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/12/27/next-season-could-be-wilmer-difos-audition-to-be-nationals-future-second-baseman/).  He isn't going anywhere.  He'll likely be starting at 2B at season's open, and could very well be our regular 2B in 2019 and beyond assuming we don't resign Murphy.
Agree. No reason to trade him now. Not with Murphy's contact up this year.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #904: December 31, 2017, 12:45:52 PM »
It seems that the new luxury tax system under the new CBA is going to constrain us (and others) from going over the cap.  That means we aren't going to be able to take on Realmuto's salary, and I can't imagine anyone would take on Wieter's unless we pay for it in prospects.  That means a ridiculous overpay for Realmuto.
What I think Janes says is that, yes, they are going to be over this year, but probably not by a ludicrous amount, and then, with a ton coming off next year (in addition to Harper, Murphy, and Gio,  there's Wieters, Madson, Kelley, and a few others), they could re-sign Harper and still have maybe $40MM of cap room.  Realmuto would not change that.

I wonder if Difo for Realmuto would work?  They need IF help, with no one established besides Castro (if they don't flip him).  Sanchez then becomes your back up unless you make a signing.  If you think Goodwin could be a 2d division starter, then you might have another piece to move.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #905: December 31, 2017, 12:56:11 PM »
What I think Janes says is that, yes, they are going to be over this year, but probably not by a ludicrous amount, and then, with a ton coming off next year (in addition to Harper, Murphy, and Gio,  there's Wieters, Madson, Kelley, and a few others), they could re-sign Harper and still have maybe $40MM of cap room.  Realmuto would not change that.

I wonder if Difo for Realmuto would work?  They need IF help, with no one established besides Castro (if they don't flip him).  Sanchez then becomes your back up unless you make a signing.  If you think Goodwin could be a 2d division starter, then you might have another piece to move.

my guess is that we end up going into the season with Wieters and Severino, and looking for help at the deadline if Wieters is again awful.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #906: December 31, 2017, 12:59:04 PM »
Grant Paulsen has a shoe on MLB network?

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #907: December 31, 2017, 01:38:02 PM »
Grant Paulsen has a shoe on MLB network?
on MLB radio every Sunday morning. called "Minors and Majors" its focused on developing players obviously.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #908: December 31, 2017, 01:54:32 PM »
Is this like on Tune In or something?

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« Reply #909: January 01, 2018, 12:07:10 AM »
Is this like on Tune In or something?

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #910: January 02, 2018, 12:17:59 PM »
I'd think a Soto for Realmuto trade works for Miami.  I'd surely make the deal from Rizzo's chair.  Even if Harper leaves, I still think there's four OF's ahead of Soto on the depth chart (Eaton, Taylor, Robles, Goodwin).  Soto projects as a potential stud, but I think Realmuto is already at stud level, as catchers go.  Maybe the Nats winning window is still open in 2020, but's a big gamble to expect it to be as open then as it is now.  Maybe being down an outfielder provides a little extra impetus for emptying the Brinks truck at Bryce's door.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #911: January 02, 2018, 12:44:13 PM »
I think even the Marlins laugh long and hard at Difo for Realmuto.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #912: January 02, 2018, 05:25:36 PM »
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1459135

JD  has a 5 year offer from the Red Sox. Definitely not a guy I want to be on the hook for that long

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #913: January 02, 2018, 05:50:38 PM »
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1459135

JD  has a 5 year offer from the Red Sox. Definitely not a guy I want to be on the hook for that long

Hosmer has one from the Padres for 7 years  :hysterical:

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #914: January 02, 2018, 06:34:56 PM »
Do they know mlb contracts are guaranteed?

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #915: January 02, 2018, 07:15:55 PM »
Do they know mlb contracts are guaranteed?

Well ... it's the Padres so who knows

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #916: January 02, 2018, 08:10:26 PM »
Well ... it's the Padres so who knows

Padres see it as a Wertheque move to prove they are serious about this youth rebuild.

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« Reply #917: January 02, 2018, 10:33:32 PM »
Padres see it as a Wertheque move to prove they are serious about this youth rebuild.

He’s only 28 so seven years isn’t a ridiculous amount of time.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #918: January 03, 2018, 12:00:03 AM »
Hosmer has one from the Padres for 7 years  :hysterical:
I have no idea why he doesn't take that. Get paid a lot of money to be the face of the franchise of a team located in a lovely city with a great climate. No pressure; just hang out with stacks of money on the beach. Sounds great, especially for a guy who already has won a World Series.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #919: January 03, 2018, 12:00:55 AM »
I have no idea why he doesn't take that. Get paid a lot of money to be the face of the franchise of a team located in a lovely city with a great climate. No pressure; just hang out with stacks of money on the beach. Sounds great, especially for a guy who already has won a World Series.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #920: January 03, 2018, 12:07:42 AM »
Not to mention that now that the Pads are the only major pro sports team left in San Diego, Hosmer would become the de facto biggest sports star on the city and if by some miracle they become good, he'll get a lot of the credit assuming his performance holds up.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #921: January 03, 2018, 12:48:39 AM »
He’s only 28 so seven years isn’t a ridiculous amount of time.
I agree, i think he should take it. The only concern for the Pads is Will Myers moving back to the outfield is that he has not played a healthy season not at 1b.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #922: January 03, 2018, 07:07:35 AM »
I have no idea why he doesn't take that. Get paid a lot of money to be the face of the franchise of a team located in a lovely city with a great climate. No pressure; just hang out with stacks of money on the beach. Sounds great, especially for a guy who already has won a World Series.
Because maybe he wants to win again?

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #923: January 03, 2018, 09:40:54 AM »
I think even the Marlins laugh long and hard at Difo for Realmuto.
I think you are right, and I'm the one who said it (although I thought perhaps with some other value).  I think Difo is a starter for them, but Realmuto gets more than that, 100%.

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-season Discussion Thread
« Reply #924: January 03, 2018, 10:10:54 AM »
I have no idea why he doesn't take that. Get paid a lot of money to be the face of the franchise of a team located in a lovely city with a great climate. No pressure; just hang out with stacks of money on the beach. Sounds great, especially for a guy who already has won a World Series.

Per Rosenthal and others.

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/948567793624068097?s=17

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Report from @BNightengale, quoting persons close to Eric Hosmer, says #Royals have offered him 7 years, $147M while #Padres have offered 7 years, $140M. Whether Hosmer and Scott Boras jump at either number remains to be seen. Their goal likely is eight years and up; Hosmer is 28. [\quote]