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Offline aspenbubba

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #25: September 21, 2017, 04:29:13 PM »
Do any stadiums do something like netting to a point, and then label some sections as high/risk, no kids allowed, and let people choose for themselves?
Somewhere on your ticket is a disclaimer against being liable for batted balls and bats injuring you. Not sure if it has ever gone to trial. I am thinking the in the interest of good will the clubs would pay any medical expense.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #26: September 21, 2017, 04:37:43 PM »
Somewhere on your ticket is a disclaimer against being liable for batted balls and bats injuring you. Not sure if it has ever gone to trial. I am thinking the in the interest of good will the clubs would pay any medical expense.

outside of Idaho, fans are probably sol https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baseball-fan-who-lost-eye-can-sue-over-foul-ball-injury-idaho-court-rules/

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #27: September 21, 2017, 04:40:41 PM »
Somewhere on your ticket is a disclaimer against being liable for batted balls and bats injuring you. Not sure if it has ever gone to trial. I am thinking the in the interest of good will the clubs would pay any medical expense.
in common law, there used to be the so-called baseball rule limiting liability if some portion of the seats are behind nets.  I'm guessing the disclaimer is to put this on more solid ground in the license (ticket) to enter the stadium.   Sort of like those contracts your software supplier makes you sign onto to get windows or acrobat.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #28: September 21, 2017, 04:41:32 PM »
Somewhere on your ticket is a disclaimer against being liable for batted balls and bats injuring you. Not sure if it has ever gone to trial. I am thinking the in the interest of good will the clubs would pay any medical expense.

The disclaimer on the ticket is only a small part of it.  Most courts generally hold that merely by sitting in the stands, you assume the risk of being hit by a ball, although there seems to be some shift towards greater willingness to allow such claims to proceed to trial. 

in common law, there used to be the so-called baseball rule limiting liability if some portion of the seats are behind nets. I'm guessing the disclaimer is to put this on more solid ground in the license (ticket) to enter the stadium.   Sort of like those contracts your software supplier makes you sign onto to get windows or acrobat.

Still is, although exactly how far it goes varies by state.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #29: September 21, 2017, 04:49:43 PM »
in common law, there used to be the so-called baseball rule limiting liability if some portion of the seats are behind nets.  I'm guessing the disclaimer is to put this on more solid ground in the license (ticket) to enter the stadium.   Sort of like those contracts your software supplier makes you sign onto to get windows or acrobat.

I wonder what's happens if a someone under 18 buys a ticket- too young to contract so the disclaimer - to the extent it's a contract - is void.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #30: September 21, 2017, 05:03:21 PM »
Doesn’t it change if the standard becomes netting and a club refuses? You can’t get out of being grossly negligent by putting a disclaimer on the ticket. And not having netting is not considered negligent now. But the definition of negligence can change over time with data and changing public opinion.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #31: September 21, 2017, 05:26:02 PM »
I think netting to the end of the dugout was overdue. As far as extending it further, I could see it being a good idea at least halfway toward the foul pole then up to team discretion depending on their specific stadium.

I've sat behind netting and barely notice it after a couple batters. When I'm near the dugout, even at minor league and college games, I always nag people I'm with to pay attention when the pitch is being thrown. Still, I've thought what if a ball is hit toward your chest area? It's one thing to duck or move side to side but if a ball is curving and ends up in your torso, how do you dodge that in barely a second? If I turned my body and took it dead on to the side, I'd be in pain but fine. That could severely hurt a small child or an elderly person.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #32: September 21, 2017, 05:29:09 PM »
A city council member in NYC wants to require the Yankees and Mets to put netting all the way to the foul poles.

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« Reply #33: September 21, 2017, 05:37:17 PM »
A city council member in NYC wants to require the Yankees and Mets to put netting all the way to the foul poles.
When I invite people to the game I always warn them that a right handed batter will foul off a ball to the first base side and a lefty will foul it off to the third base side. And stop texting!!

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #34: September 21, 2017, 05:56:20 PM »
I wonder what's happens if a someone under 18 buys a ticket- too young to contract so the disclaimer - to the extent it's a contract - is void.

It would nullify it as to any contractual significance, but it would still serve as advising the person of the risk (if they read it), which would still serve the same purpose - bolstering an assumption of risk defense.  An assumption of risk defense to a tort suit is really what this is about.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #35: September 21, 2017, 06:16:11 PM »
When I invite people to the game I always warn them that a right handed batter will foul off a ball to the first base side and a lefty will foul it off to the third base side. And stop texting!!

Those are dick pics, I'm not texting.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #36: September 21, 2017, 07:25:52 PM »
I'd be OK with netting all the way down to the flag pole.

With our young one, we do not buy tickets down the baselines.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #37: September 21, 2017, 07:59:24 PM »
Are you sure Blue ?

Those are dick pics, I'm not texting.


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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #38: September 22, 2017, 08:48:12 AM »
Carrying a glove and paying attention didn't help Cristian Guzman, can't see it being of any practical use for the average fan.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #39: September 22, 2017, 09:01:25 AM »
When I invite people to the game I always warn them that a right handed batter will foul off a ball to the first base side and a lefty will foul it off to the third base side. And stop texting!!

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #40: September 22, 2017, 10:09:17 AM »
Keep the netting as it is and let natural selection run it's course. Bad parents and people who don't pay attention will get what's coming to them. I'm a firm believer that the reason we have so many idiots that survived to adulthood is because of things like helmet laws and seatbelt laws.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #41: September 22, 2017, 10:10:02 AM »
Keep the netting as it is and let natural selection run it's course. Bad parents and people who don't pay attention will get what's coming to them. I'm a firm believer that the reason we have so many idiots that survived to adulthood is because of things like helmet laws and seatbelt laws.

And you're our shining example.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #42: September 22, 2017, 10:12:17 AM »
You have strong faith in your (fading) ability to avoid a hard hit foul. There's no way I could catch one - or avoid getting hit by one - with these progressive lenses... :D

Keep the netting as it is and let natural selection run it's course. Bad parents and people who don't pay attention will get what's coming to them. I'm a firm believer that the reason we have so many idiots that survived to adulthood is because of things like helmet laws and seatbelt laws.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #43: September 22, 2017, 10:13:53 AM »
You have strong faith in your (fading) ability to avoid a hard hit foul. There's no way I could catch one - or avoid getting hit by one - with these progressive lenses... :D

I know I will be too drunk to adequately defend myself in those situations. Thus, I do not sit there. I don't slap a bear and then nag when it bites me.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #44: September 22, 2017, 10:14:08 AM »
You have strong faith in your (fading) ability to avoid a hard hit foul. There's no way I could catch one - or avoid getting hit by one - with these progressive lenses... :D

That's his point - natural selection should be allowed to prune the less capable from our ranks leaving only the lucky strong to survive.

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« Reply #45: September 22, 2017, 10:18:07 AM »
That's his point - natural selection should be allowed to prune the less capable from our ranks leaving only the lucky strong to survive.
And this coming from a liberal??? :)

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #46: September 22, 2017, 10:22:05 AM »
And this coming from a liberal??? :)

Copec is a liberal?

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #47: September 22, 2017, 10:23:25 AM »
Copec is a liberal?
I missed that you were quoting him

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #48: September 22, 2017, 10:23:57 AM »
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I know I will be too drunk to adequately defend myself in those situations. Thus, I do not sit there. I don't slap a bear and then nag when it bites me.

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Re: What is your opinion on netting?
« Reply #49: September 22, 2017, 10:28:43 AM »
I used to buy into the notion that if you pay attention you won't get hurt. But I've had a couple of hard hit line drives come my way down the 3B line this season that would have been almost impossible to avoid if they were right at me. And I'm fairly mobile and I know how hard hit baseballs behave.

I'm all for the nets now. The ones they have at MLB stadiums are very easy to see through so I don't see the harm in having them.