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Offline imref

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #200: October 08, 2017, 10:21:17 AM »
And last year, we scored three runs in Game 1. What's your point?

"If you go with Roark, you lose" is a silly comment.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #201: October 08, 2017, 10:31:28 AM »
In case you forgot, we won game 2 last year with Roark starting.  2 ER in 4.1.

Well it was not a good outing for Roark, we won because the bullpen bailed him out, no runs in nearly five innings.  If we get a similar performance  from him, we'll need a similar effort from the bullpen.  But I have confidence in the bullpen.  And who knows, maybe we'll get the "good" Roark.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #202: October 08, 2017, 10:53:53 AM »
I'm not so convinced that Roark is an auto loss. Weird things happen in October. Chris Sale got rocked Game 1. Stras goes 7 IP 10 Ks and still loses. Anything can happen. And he'd be facing a Jake Arrieta thats coming off injury.

If we're up 2-1 I have no issue with Roark starting knowing we have Stras as the ace up our sleeve. If we're down 2-1 though, I go with Stras on short rest with Roark ready to relieve and hope and pray Gio has the balls to win a Game 5.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #203: October 08, 2017, 11:09:10 AM »
hope and pray Gio has the balls to win a Game 5.
I have no confidence in Gio in a playoff game.  His postseason career has been awful.  You can expect 4 to 5 innings, 3 runs, at his best.  The bullpen will have to bail us out and the offense will have to score at least 4.  All this is possible but it's asking alot. 

This is why it is such a shame that Scherzer didn't pitch game 2.  Even though we won.  If He'd pitched yesterday he would have been ready for game 5.  I'm sure that management took that into consideration which makes it all the more disturbing; he needed that extra day of rest, it wasn't discretionary. Something's wrong.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #204: October 08, 2017, 11:29:59 AM »
The thing about Roark is we'll know pretty quickly if he has command.

Who's the long guy?


I'm not so convinced that Roark is an auto loss. Weird things happen in October. Chris Sale got rocked Game 1. Stras goes 7 IP 10 Ks and still loses. Anything can happen. And he'd be facing a Jake Arrieta thats coming off injury.

If we're up 2-1 I have no issue with Roark starting knowing we have Stras as the ace up our sleeve. If we're down 2-1 though, I go with Stras on short rest with Roark ready to relieve and hope and pray Gio has the balls to win a Game 5.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #205: October 08, 2017, 11:44:01 AM »
I have no confidence in Gio in a playoff game.  His postseason career has been awful.  You can expect 4 to 5 innings, 3 runs, at his best.  The bullpen will have to bail us out and the offense will have to score at least 4.  All this is possible but it's asking alot. 

This is why it is such a shame that Scherzer didn't pitch game 2.  Even though we won.  If He'd pitched yesterday he would have been ready for game 5.  I'm sure that management took that into consideration which makes it all the more disturbing; he needed that extra day of rest, it wasn't discretionary. Something's wrong.

But if Max had pitched game 2 then the Nats would be in the same position, tied 1-1, but with Gio starting on the Road. Now hopefully you can win Game 3 and still have Stras to go.
It’s clear that Max has an injury. So why not give him the extra 2 days?

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #206: October 08, 2017, 12:19:38 PM »
"If you go with Roark, you lose" is a silly comment.
It's silly to compare last year to this year. Last year he had an 2.83 ERA. This year it's 4.67.

I have no confidence in Gio in a playoff game.  His postseason career has been awful.  You can expect 4 to 5 innings, 3 runs, at his best.  The bullpen will have to bail us out and the offense will have to score at least 4.  All this is possible but it's asking alot. 

This is why it is such a shame that Scherzer didn't pitch game 2.  Even though we won.  If He'd pitched yesterday he would have been ready for game 5.  I'm sure that management took that into consideration which makes it all the more disturbing; he needed that extra day of rest, it wasn't discretionary. Something's wrong.

Pitch Stras on Game 4. You have Scherzer out of the pen for Game 5.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #207: October 08, 2017, 12:36:05 PM »
It's silly to compare last year to this year. Last year he had an 2.83 ERA. This year it's 4.67.

Slate relying on a traditional stat.  Next thing you know he'll start talking about batting averages...  :smh:

Roark's WHIP since the All Star break is 1.19.  Scherzer's is 1.12...the same as Gio...


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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #208: October 08, 2017, 04:05:39 PM »
Per Chelsea Janes:

“Scherzer expects to be able to go 100 pitches tomorrow. Confident he’s healthy and has strengthened the muscle.”

https://twitter.com/chelsea_janes/status/917117782029946880

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #209: October 08, 2017, 04:06:09 PM »
Also, Roark confirmed as game 4 starter.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #210: October 08, 2017, 06:23:00 PM »
Slate relying on a traditional stat.  Next thing you know he'll start talking about batting averages...  :smh:

Roark's WHIP since the All Star break is 1.19.  Scherzer's is 1.12...the same as Gio...



Only 7 wins and an ERA of 3.90

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #211: October 08, 2017, 06:46:26 PM »
Only 7 wins and an ERA of 3.90

Scherzer only has 6 wins...and there you go again with ERA...  :smh:

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #212: October 08, 2017, 07:01:15 PM »
Nats said today that Stras in game four is not an option.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #213: October 08, 2017, 07:50:28 PM »
Also, Roark confirmed as game 4 starter.
Interesting..

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #214: October 08, 2017, 07:57:34 PM »
Interesting..

Cubs vs Tanner 2017:  .215/.292/.418/.710  2.84 ERA (since Slate is all over that stat) and a 1-0 record in one quality start.


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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #215: October 08, 2017, 08:08:08 PM »
I don't think regular season results really means that much in the playoffs. Happens all the time. Even this year, Sale got lit up and Kershaw wasn't great in his start either(but his team scored a ton). Also the Wild Card game Pitchers struggled too. Wouldn't shock me at all to see Roark go 6+ IP and give up 2 or fewer runs.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #216: October 09, 2017, 12:08:57 PM »
If game 4 is postponed due to rain (68-78% chance of light rain forecast) does Stras pitch Wednesday on the alleged  off day. Does it matter if we are 2-1 or 1-2? Does it mean that Gio pitches the crucial Game 5 or Roark?

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #217: October 09, 2017, 12:21:59 PM »
If game 4 is postponed due to rain (68-78% chance of light rain forecast) does Stras pitch Wednesday on the alleged  off day. Does it matter if we are 2-1 or 1-2? Does it mean that Gio pitches the crucial Game 5 or Roark?

If Stras is available on regular rest you pitch him. If we're up 2-1 we take a shot at winning the series right then and there, if we're down then obviously we go with our biggest weapon.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #218: October 09, 2017, 12:54:25 PM »
Scherzer only has 6 wins...and there you go again with ERA...  :smh:
Considering I don't expect any starter to go more than 5 innings in the playoffs, ERA is far more useful.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #219: October 09, 2017, 01:40:01 PM »
If game 4 is postponed due to rain (68-78% chance of light rain forecast) does Stras pitch Wednesday on the alleged  off day. Does it matter if we are 2-1 or 1-2? Does it mean that Gio pitches the crucial Game 5 or Roark?

I forget how it works.  Do you push back the games a day and forgo the travel day, or do you push back all the games?

I was just thinking about this when it looked like rain in Boston.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #220: October 09, 2017, 01:42:01 PM »
I forget how it works.  Do you push back the games a day and forgo the travel day, or do you push back all the games?

I was just thinking about this when it looked like rain in Boston.

Forego the travel day normally.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #221: October 11, 2017, 09:48:26 PM »
Personally I’d go with Gio for game 5, but obviously keep him on a pretty short leash.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #222: October 12, 2017, 02:17:15 AM »
Personally I’d go with Gio for game 5, but obviously keep him on a pretty short leash.

I read somewhere that if you go with Roark and pivot to Gio you make Maddon potentially burn his lefty sluggers. Not the worst plan, especially if Max is there for 2 innings.

Roark: 2 innings, hopefully doesn’t bat.
Pinch hit for pitcher first time through.
Gio: 3 innings, hopefully bats once.
Pinch hit for pitcher 4th time through.
Max: 2 innings, hopefully doesn’t bat.
Pinch hit again.
Kinzler/Madson/Doolittle as needed.

This plan would have one pitcher AB unless we have a big inning. Two tops. It would also flip from righty to lefty and back.

You can start Werth and use his spot in the order to double switch the pitching spot back for Kendrick or Goodwin, then do it again for Goodwin or Kendrick, and if need be even a third time with Robles.


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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #223: October 12, 2017, 06:19:50 AM »
I’d go with strasburg tonight. He’s Superman.

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Re: Postseason Starting Rotation
« Reply #224: October 12, 2017, 06:57:15 AM »
Morse for one.