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Don't forget Jordan's no hitter.

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Opening Day 2005 was the day baseball arrived in DC.

If spider were a writer, he'd write technical user manuals. :)l

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I think that was the first game that I thought that DC baseball had finally arrived. I had never seen that kind of excitement at the park before, and it has only been matched by playoff games. And I was there for the Max's 20K game and the Zimmermann no-hitter.
Well, we agree on Stras debut game. I was there and it was freakin' electric!!

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Rendon's 6-6 game

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Redundant.

How is this redundant? You can complete a game and give up runs..

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How is this redundant? You can complete a game and give up runs..
The "Complete game"  part is redundant.  A shutout is by definition a complete game.

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Opening Day 2005 was the day baseball arrived in DC.

Technically, of course. But then it was years of our crowds being outnumbered by opposing fans and tepid turnout and excitement because of bad teams.

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Ray D doing his best Welch impersonation.

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Technically, of course. But then it was years of our crowds being outnumbered by opposing fans and tepid turnout and excitement because of bad teams.



But the atmosphere at that game was incredible. The only other game that has rivaled the excitement of that night was game 5 in 2012.

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But the atmosphere at that game was incredible. The only other game that has rivaled the excitement of that night was game 5 in 2012.

Sure, the excitement of 2005 first game was unreal and it's a game I will always remember. (The only time I've ever seen grown men cry at a sporting event. Seriously. They were bawling.)

But the game itself didn't match the excitement. I was trying to say Stras's debut was a great mixture of excitement and performance (the point of this whole thread.) But we're splitting hairs. Both games were great.

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How is this redundant? You can complete a game and give up runs..

And you can have a shutout without a complete game. Maybe I'm missing something.

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But the atmosphere at that game was incredible. The only other game that has rivaled the excitement of that night was game 5 in 2012.

the atmosphere was the same at that game as it is at any other game, largely nitrogen.

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And you can have a shutout without a complete game.

No. You can't.  A pitcher is credited with a shutout only if it's a complete game.   You can have a combined shutout, but neither pitcher gets credited with a shutout.

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http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/shutout
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A starting pitcher is credited with a shutout when he pitches the entire game for a team and does not allow the opposition to score. By definition, any pitcher who throws a shutout is also awarded a win. Because he recorded every out for his team and didn't allow a run, his team could only have won.

If a starting pitcher does not allow a run but is removed before the game ends, he is not given credit for a shutout. However, if the ensuing reliever(s) also do not allow a run, the team as a whole is credited with a shutout.

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No. You can't.  A pitcher is credited with a shutout only if it's a complete game.   You can have a combined shutout, but neither pitcher gets credited with a shutout.

Agree. From a scoring perspective, you can't have a shutout.

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And you can have a shutout without a complete game. Maybe I'm missing something.


No. You can't.  A pitcher is credited with a shutout only if it's a complete game.   



Agree. From a scoring perspective, you can't have a shutout.



Sounds like BiL is "evolving" on this issue. ;)

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Per official MLB rule 9.18: "No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts out the side without a run scoring and pitches the rest of the game without allowing a run."

http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/shutout

I just learned about the second type of shut out and now I really want to see it happen. It's got to be the rarest way to get a stat that's actually spelled out in the rule book

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http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/shutout

I just learned about the second type of shut out and now I really want to see it happen. It's got to be the rarest way to get a stat that's actually spelled out in the rule book


This happened against the Senators in 1917 in a game where Babe Ruth, pitching for the red sox, was ejected after walking the first batter. Ernie Shore entered the game and, after the catcher threw out the runner trying to steal 2B, went on to retire the next 26 batters and was credited with a "combined no-hitter". :shock:



https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS191706231.shtml

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Games ranking over this one:
Zimmerman's ninth inning heroics against yankees fathers day 06
JZim's aforementioned game
Harper's 3 HR game
Scherzer's 20 k game
Rendon's aforementioned 6-6, 3 he game

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Sounds like BiL is "evolving" on this issue. ;)

I think we all know you can't credit a pitcher with a shutout unless he goes 9. But it's still called a shutout when it's a combined shutout so...

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I guess I have misunderstood the question. I was thinking of this as best baseball performance, not most exciting or most memorable to Nats. Rendon's game and Scherzer's two (two!) games have not been bested by more than 5 players in the 100+ year history of baseball. These performances need no context. Twenty strikeouts, 6 for 6 with 10 RBI, Game score of 104. No qualifiers or explanations necessary.

That being said, I like everyone going over their favorite Nats performances. Especially since I am relatively new to the fan base. I like the history.

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Danny Espinosa had a couple of absolute bazookas from SS to 1B that rank up there.


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I guess I have misunderstood the question. I was thinking of this as best baseball performance, not most exciting or most memorable to Nats. Rendon's game and Scherzer's two (two!) games have not been bested by more than 5 players in the 100+ year history of baseball. These performances need no context. Twenty strikeouts, 6 for 6 with 10 RBI, Game score of 104. No qualifiers or explanations necessary.

That being said, I like everyone going over their favorite Nats performances. Especially since I am relatively new to the fan base. I like the history.
I was thinking best baseball performance. As far as memorable, lots of games over it.

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Danny Espinosa had a couple of absolute bazookas from SS to 1B that rank up there.





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I guess I have misunderstood the question. I was thinking of this as best baseball performance, not most exciting or most memorable to Nats. Rendon's game and Scherzer's two (two!) games have not been bested by more than 5 players in the 100+ year history of baseball. 



You were right. Those are the 3 that stand out as the best performances. The idea of including any of Strasburg's games is just dumb.