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Expos, Pudge in WAS Ring of Honor
« Topic Start: August 24, 2017, 05:44:39 PM »
Tim Raines and Pudge are going into the ring of honor at Nats park on Monday per Dan Steinberg at the Washington Post.


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Tim Raines and Pudge are going into the ring of honor at Nats park on Monday per Dan Steinberg at the Washington Post.
but not Pedro, who won a Cy Young for the Expos in 1997 and was in the 1994 rotation?

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I hope to live to see the day when the Nats have enough home town heroes that we can begin the debate on which Expos names to chisel down first to make room for guys who played the bulk of their career in DC.

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Raines is deserving. Pudge, ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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I hope to live to see the day when the Nats have enough home town heroes that we can begin the debate on which Expos names to chisel down first to make room for guys who played the bulk of their career in DC.
I'm hoping Montreal gets another team and we can give 'em back to them. In the mean time, I'm ok with preserving the history in Montreal so it's not lost to time.

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I was looking at people commenting on this on Twitter. I simply cannot understand the outrage folks have over this.

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Ivan Rodriguez? You're kidding, right? He played the final couple season of his career in Washington. Did nothing of significance here. Spent most of his career in the American League. What in the world?

Tim Raines is a hall of famer who played a majority of his career for the Expos. That puts him in the same category as Dawson and Carter.

If Ivan Rodriguez is in the franchise hall of fame that means at least 100 former players should be in as well. This makes no sense. I hope it's a misunderstanding or a short term thing cuz he just got elected.

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Ivan Rodriguez? You're kidding, right? He played the final couple season of his career in Washington. Did nothing of significance here. Spent most of his career in the American League. What in the world?

Tim Raines is a hall of famer who played a majority of his career for the Expos. That puts him in the same category as Dawson and Carter.

If Ivan Rodriguez is in the franchise hall of fame that means at least 100 former players should be in as well. This makes no sense. I hope it's a misunderstanding or a short term thing cuz he just got elected.
He was the first person to wear a Nats uniform to make it into the HOF. I think that's the only reason behind it.

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He was the first person to wear a Nats uniform to make it into the HOF. I think that's the only reason behind it.

That is worth... at best.. a 7th inning stretch jumbotron trivia question during a meaningless game in April against the Phillies.

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Tim Raines and Pudge are going into the ring of honor at Nats park on Monday per Dan Steinberg at the Washington Post.



:smh:

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That is worth... at best.. a 7th inning stretch jumbotron trivia question during a meaningless game in April against the Phillies.
It's probably worth more than that, but the Ring of Honor is excessive, IMO.

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Mike Piazza played his final season in Oakland... maybe he should be in their franchise Hall of Fame..

Or Maybe Randy Johnson who went 8-6 for San Francisco in his final season... maybe he should be enshrined in the Giants HOF.

Greg Maddux ended with a 5.09 ERA for the Dodgers... He bleeds dodger blue.

I could go on... and on... and on...

This makes the organization look pathetic IMO. They're trying to claim Ivan Rodriguez who played here as a hobbled old catcher in the twilight of his career. HOF worthy as it may have been... none of that stuff happened here.

The first "Nat" who actually wore the post-2005 uniform to be enshrined should be Ryan Zimmerman.


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At least pudge played here, that's more than Raines

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Mike Piazza played his final season in Oakland... maybe he should be in their franchise Hall of Fame..

Or Maybe Randy Johnson who went 8-6 for San Francisco in his final season... maybe he should be enshrined in the Giants HOF.

Greg Maddux ended with a 5.09 ERA for the Dodgers... He bleeds dodger blue.

I could go on... and on... and on...

This makes the organization look pathetic IMO. They're trying to claim Ivan Rodriguez who played here as a hobbled old catcher in the twilight of his career. HOF worthy as it may have been... none of that stuff happened here.

The first "Nat" who actually wore the post-2005 uniform to be enshrined should be Ryan Zimmerman.


Absolutely.  Pudge Rodriguez? Ridiculous.

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It's probably worth more than that, but the Ring of Honor is excessive, IMO.

No more excessive than former Orioles owner Edward Bennett Williams - a man who fought to keep baseball out of Washington - being honoured in Nats Park's Washington Hall of Stars or whatever they call it nowadays. (I don't care what he did at the Redskins - his Orioles ownership and opposition to baseball in Washington make him ipso facto ineligible to be honoured at Washington's baseball park.)

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No more excessive than former Orioles owner Edward Bennett Williams - a man who fought to keep baseball out of Washington - being honoured in Nats Park's Washington Hall of Stars or whatever they call it nowadays. (I don't care what he did at the Redskins - his Orioles ownership and opposition to baseball in Washington make him ipso facto ineligible to be honoured at Washington's baseball park.)

Great point, might as well put up Angelos for all he has done getting the games on TV.

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I love it when the old franchise-DNA song & dance number gets trotted back out onto stage  :lol:

 

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The Nationals are the Expos, moved to another city and dressed up in new jerseys. The Nationals can no more claim to be the Senators than an Catholic Irishman who moves to Beacon Hill in Boston can claim to be an elite WASP because Boston Brahmins once lived where he does now.

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The Nationals are the Expos, moved to another city and dressed up in new jerseys. The Nationals can no more claim to be the Senators than an Catholic Irishman who moves to Beacon Hill in Boston can claim to be an elite WASP because Boston Brahmins once lived where he does now.

It's a matter of the keeping of history, which a team located in a market with a century of professional baseball history can choose to associated with and celebrate. It's just like the choice made to have the Ravens not be the guardian of Cleveland's NFL history.

I can understand the franchise itself acting as a conduit to honor how players at a major league venue in realtime. However, I think it more appropriate for that history to have its locus in Montreal amongst the fanbase where it was made. I seem to remember things like that occurring at their hockey arena, with banners and so forth.

Again, we are talking about a century of baseball history here. It is understandable and logical that the custodians of the area's baseball history -- which includes talking about who's hit the most homers ina Washington uniform, who's won the most games in a Washington uniform, and so forth -- would not only make that connection but talk about it more than a nnection to things that happened in another market (and actually in a another country).

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The Nationals are the Expos, moved to another city and dressed up in new jerseys. The Nationals can no more claim to be the Senators than an Catholic Irishman who moves to Beacon Hill in Boston can claim to be an elite WASP because Boston Brahmins once lived where he does now.

that doesn't mean anyone here has to give a crap about the expos

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that doesn't mean anyone here has to give a crap about the expos
Nope, you don't. But I don't think it's wrong for the Nats to preserve that history, either.

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The Nationals are the Expos, moved to another city and dressed up in new jerseys. The Nationals can no more claim to be the Senators than an Catholic Irishman who moves to Beacon Hill in Boston can claim to be an elite WASP because Boston Brahmins once lived where he does now.



The Nationals are not the expos anymore. They ceased being that 12 years ago. And no one here is claiming that they are the Senators.



Nope, you don't. But I don't think it's wrong for the Nats to preserve that history, either.



We are already living in an era where history is being whitewashed. :stir:

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They ought to put an accord or civic on a ped to honor that Honda guy.

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Ivan Rodriguez and Tim Raines added to the Ring of (dis)Honor???????
Who makes these decisions????
Peter Angelos???
No Mickey Vernon???????
Two out of towners instead?????