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Offline Expos

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Edwin Jackson
« Topic Start: August 18, 2017, 09:42:25 AM »
I think he deserves his own thread. He had been great since we signed him and has probably pitched himself into a contract for next year.

4 wins, 2 losses, 2.92 ERA,  37 IP, 33 hits, 8 walks,  29 SO, 1.108 WHIP

Offline Slateman

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #1: August 18, 2017, 09:43:07 AM »
Surprising. Very surprising. Exactly what this team needed to get to October.

Frankly, I think we should attempt to get more former Orioles starters.

Offline mimontero88

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #2: August 18, 2017, 09:44:43 AM »
I think he deserves his own thread. He had been great since we signed him and has probably pitched himself into a contract for next year.

4 wins, 2 losses, 2.92 ERA,  37 IP, 33 hits, 8 walks,  29 SO, 1.108 WHIP
I can comfortably and happily say that, so far, I was WAY wrong about Edwin Jackson.  The peripherals actually hold up and look like this pace may be pretty sustainable for him.  I don't think he's magically morphed into an elite pitcher overnight and I do expect some regression but I completely agree that he's really put himself back on the map as a pitcher who will appeal to a lot of teams.

Offline Truconfidence

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #3: August 18, 2017, 09:57:56 AM »
Surprising. Very surprising. Exactly what this team needed to get to October.

Frankly, I think we should attempt to get more former Orioles starters.

How bout Chris Tillman for a  5th starter next year?

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #4: August 18, 2017, 10:00:20 AM »
How bout Chris Tillman for a  5th starter next year?

It took exactly four posts to stop talking about Edwin Jackson.   :lmao:

Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #5: August 18, 2017, 10:02:29 AM »
He has good stuff.  When he's good, you wonder how it is he's had times in his career he was so bad.  Perhaps with the right pitching coach and in the right comfort zone he can be a solid back-end starter?  I've certainly been pleasantly surprised with how he's performed. 

Offline expos1994

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #6: August 18, 2017, 10:12:34 AM »
It's almost as if he's been on the DL for 4 1/2 years.  Glad to see that he has slid right back into his old slot in the rotation.
For a guy who's played for 12 teams (guessing there) it seems like he favors playing for the Nats.

Offline nats2playoffs

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #7: August 18, 2017, 10:19:59 AM »
The 2012 Edwin Jackson thread is here:
http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=26854.0


Offline bk1998

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #8: August 18, 2017, 10:41:32 AM »
...and has probably pitched himself into a contract for next year.

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #9: August 18, 2017, 10:45:28 AM »
Still not a believer, there's a reason he keeps getting cut.  Glad he's done so well, have no expectation that will continue though. 

Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #10: August 18, 2017, 10:57:15 AM »
Like Howie Kendrick, if he continues playing this well some team other than the Nats will give him a big payday this winter. The Nats should not be that team.

Offline Optics

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #11: August 18, 2017, 11:03:40 AM »
I think comfort, familiarity, and good coaching matter. Jackson was for the most part great here in 2012 and clearly he is comfortable playing here and the Nats clubhouse seems to be very fitting for veteran guys. That and don't discount Mike Maddux who many consider to be the best pitching coach in baseball.

Baltimore just doesn't develop or coach Ps well, haven't in basically forever either. See Jake Arietta.

Offline mimontero88

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #12: August 18, 2017, 12:44:53 PM »
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
:lmao:

Offline 3bside

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #13: August 18, 2017, 12:49:53 PM »
No reason to sign him before he hits the market.  If he's still available in Feburary, we can give him a conditional contract.  The offseason priority should be to get a legitimate 3-4 type starter through free agency or a trade, basically a repeat of the Fister deal.

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #14: August 18, 2017, 01:14:31 PM »
Clearly the baseball gods are not moved by economic logic.  EJax makes what, 36 times less than Jordan Zimmermann?

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #15: August 18, 2017, 01:16:37 PM »
The 2012 Edwin Jackson thread is here:
http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=26854.0

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Folks should I combine threads?  Anyone care?

Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #16: August 18, 2017, 01:18:38 PM »
Assuming he finishes relatively well, I'd be happy to give him a cheap 1 year deal.  But if he finishes reasonably well, with as hard as pitching is to find now, he'll get 2 years 10 mill somewhere.

Offline mimontero88

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #17: August 18, 2017, 01:19:03 PM »
Folks should I combine threads?  Anyone care?
I actually think not.  It's really two totally different conversations separated by five years of context.  But do I care?  No, do whatever makes you happy :P

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #18: August 18, 2017, 01:22:20 PM »
I actually think not.  It's really two totally different conversations separated by five years of context.  But do I care?  No, do whatever makes you happy :P

No, I really do want your honest opinion before I do what I have already decided to do.

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Offline mimontero88

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #19: August 18, 2017, 01:24:56 PM »
No, I really do want your honest opinion before I do what I have already decided to do.

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Sigh... mods.  The dictators of the Internet :P

Offline rbw5t

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #20: August 18, 2017, 01:42:10 PM »
Do we know what his contract looks like?  Any chance we included a team option for next year when we signed him?

Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #21: August 18, 2017, 01:45:31 PM »
Do we know what his contract looks like?  Any chance we included a team option for next year when we signed him?

Wasn't he a minor league free agent?  Never heard of a club option for a minor league free agent. 

Offline Slateman

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #22: August 18, 2017, 01:48:23 PM »
Folks should I combine threads?  Anyone care?

Sure, but you gotta change the title

Offline Slateman

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #23: August 18, 2017, 01:49:13 PM »
Wasn't he a minor league free agent?  Never heard of a club option for a minor league free agent. 

Yep. He's a free agent at the end of the year

Offline varoadking

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Re: Edwin Jackson
« Reply #24: August 18, 2017, 01:50:11 PM »
Clearly the baseball gods are not moved by economic logic.  EJax makes what, 36 times less than Jordan Zimmermann?

He's made about $65MM in his career.  I'll not shed a tear for him...