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Who should play CF?

Michael Taylor
13 (38.2%)
Brian Goodwin
9 (26.5%)
Platoon: Goodwin against RHP, Taylor against LHP
12 (35.3%)

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Offline whytev

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Re: Michael Taylor or Brian Goodwin?
« Reply #75: June 26, 2017, 07:42:28 PM »
Taylor and Goodwin both are probably now considered by many teams to be major league talent.  They are both probably at the height of their value.  Trade then both, keep the prospects.

I guess you haven't heard that Eaton just got hurt.

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« Reply #76: June 26, 2017, 08:00:57 PM »
Taylor and Goodwin both are probably now considered by many teams to be major league talent.  They are both probably at the height of their value.  Trade then both, keep the prospects.

Don't you need people to play in the outfield this year?

Offline Natsinpwc

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« Reply #77: June 26, 2017, 08:06:18 PM »
Don't you need people to play in the outfield this year?
Haven't you given up on this year like everyone else here?

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« Reply #78: June 26, 2017, 08:07:16 PM »
Haven't you given up on this year like everyone else here?

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Offline Natsinpwc

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« Reply #79: June 26, 2017, 08:09:26 PM »
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Nats fans here dream of the 2005-2010 era when they team was weak and they could focus on how the teams would get much better so they could be unhappy.

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« Reply #80: June 26, 2017, 08:11:56 PM »
Nats fans here dream of the 2005-2010 era when they team was weak and they could focus on how the teams would get much better so they could be unhappy.

I blame it on Davey Johnson in 2013.  That "World Series or Bust" crap set this team and it's fans up for disappointment the past 4 years...

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« Reply #81: June 26, 2017, 10:33:17 PM »
I blame it on Davey Johnson in 2013.  That "World Series or Bust" crap set this team and it's fans up for disappointment the past 4 years...

"Where's My Ring?" same mistake.

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« Reply #82: June 27, 2017, 07:30:02 AM »
I blame it on Davey Johnson in 2013.  That "World Series or Bust" crap set this team and it's fans up for disappointment the past 4 years...
"Where's My Ring?" same mistake.
They won 98 games in a season where everyone said they weren't even peaking.

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« Reply #83: June 27, 2017, 08:17:48 AM »
They won 98 games in a season where everyone said they weren't even peaking.

So...the Nats are the new Caps?

Make up your mind, Slate...I though regular season "Championships" didn't count for anything...

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« Reply #84: June 27, 2017, 08:36:59 AM »
So...the Nats are the new Caps?

Make up your mind, Slate...I though regular season "Championships" didn't count for anything...
They are the new Caps. Regular season championships don't matter.

What I meant was that the 2012 season did far more to set up fans sense of disappointment than Davey Johnson's "World Series or bust" or Bryce Harper with his "Where's my ring?" 98 wins; Rizzo shutting down Strasburg with the expectation that he will be an ace for years and take the Nats to multiple deep playoff runs; It wasn't apparent that Zim's shoulder was basically shredded lettuce; Danny Espinosa was actually a good player who; Desmond had become an elite shortstop; and the biggest problem on the team was where do we play Mike Morse.

Everyone in baseball thought this team was a move or two away from being a 100+ win team and multiple championships.

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« Reply #85: June 27, 2017, 08:43:46 AM »
They are the new Caps. Regular season championships don't matter.

What I meant was that the 2012 season did far more to set up fans sense of disappointment than Davey Johnson's "World Series or bust" or Bryce Harper with his "Where's my ring?" 98 wins; Rizzo shutting down Strasburg with the expectation that he will be an ace for years and take the Nats to multiple deep playoff runs; It wasn't apparent that Zim's shoulder was basically shredded lettuce; Danny Espinosa was actually a good player who; Desmond had become an elite shortstop; and the biggest problem on the team was where do we play Mike Morse.

Everyone in baseball thought this team was a move or two away from being a 100+ win team and multiple championships.

But Davey laid it out there...he not only validated it from within...he proclaimed it so.  It was no different than all the folks...supposedly in the know...that said that the Titanic was unsinkable...

Offline aspenbubba

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« Reply #86: June 27, 2017, 02:07:07 PM »
Taylor and Goodwin both are probably now considered by many teams to be major league talent.  They are both probably at the height of their value.  Trade then both, keep the prospects.
Interesting thought if they are in fact at the peak value. So we are left with whom to play CF. Heisey who can't hit and Raburn who is not a C/F?

Offline Ray D

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« Reply #87: June 27, 2017, 03:36:42 PM »
Interesting thought if they are in fact at the peak value. So we are left with whom to play CF. Heisey who can't hit and Raburn who is not a C/F?
Trading both was probably  a dumb idea.  Trade one. (Flip a coin.)  Even trading one leaves us vulnerable when Werth is injured or being rested.  However I think we can sustain that vulnerability more easily than our bullpen vulnerability. And I do NOT want to see any of our valuable prospects traded away.

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« Reply #88: June 27, 2017, 03:58:14 PM »
Sounds like Werth is due back after the break.

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Re: Michael Taylor or Brian Goodwin?
« Reply #89: June 27, 2017, 04:10:28 PM »
  Even trading one leaves us vulnerable when Werth is injured or being rested.



Can we trade Werth? :lol:

Offline Ray D

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« Reply #90: June 27, 2017, 04:36:11 PM »


Can we trade Werth? :lol:
Wouldn't get much in return.  Certainly not close to what we could get for either Taylor or Goodwin.  Moot point though, he has a no-trade.

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Re: Michael Taylor or Brian Goodwin?
« Reply #91: June 27, 2017, 08:35:52 PM »
Taylor and Goodwin both are probably now considered by many teams to be major league talent.  They are both probably at the height of their value.  Trade then both, keep the prospects.

Maybe black outfielders are the new Moneyball.

Offline dracnal

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« Reply #92: June 27, 2017, 10:47:24 PM »
Maybe black outfielders are the new Moneyball.

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« Reply #93: June 27, 2017, 11:29:25 PM »
Why doesn't Goodwin steal more?

Offline BigMeech

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« Reply #94: June 28, 2017, 01:22:28 AM »
Why doesn't Goodwin steal more?

DC Police

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Offline GuyFromCO

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« Reply #95: June 28, 2017, 01:57:37 AM »
:?

Thread taking a classic turn...

Offline bluestreak

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« Reply #96: June 28, 2017, 08:51:06 AM »
Thread taking a classic turn...

Classic?

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« Reply #97: June 28, 2017, 09:12:38 AM »
DC Police

 :turrible:
:lmao:

freaking racist cops in DC. Let the white boy get away with stealing while the black man has to stick close.

#weareallgoodwin #FREETHEGOODWIN

Offline monkeyhit

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Re: Michael Taylor or Brian Goodwin?
« Reply #98: June 28, 2017, 11:17:53 AM »
We have a real depth now in outfielders:  Eaton, Goodwin, Taylor, Werth, Harper, Andrew Stevenson in AAA, Robles, Johnson and Soto further down but rising.

Assuming no trades, 2018   Eaton Taylor Harper           Bench  Goodwin, Stevenson
                             2019   Eaton, Taylor, Goodwin       Bench   Stevenson, Robles
                             2020   Eaton, Robles, Stevenson   Bench  Soto, Johnson
                             2021   Stevenson, Robles, Soto     Bench Johnson + next new guy


No Need for a Royce contract in DC.

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Re: Michael Taylor or Brian Goodwin?
« Reply #99: June 28, 2017, 11:23:30 AM »
No Need for a Royce contract in DC.
Well, We don't really know what we have in anything not in the majors yet.

But their presence gives the Nats options. They can trade from that depth if they sign Harper. Or they can back fill with Harper, spend on other guys or future free agents. I'm want Harper here for the long haul, but it's nice to have options in the likely event he signs somewhere else.