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Offline monkeyhit

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #50: June 26, 2017, 06:38:35 PM »
This might sound a little silly but this series against the Cubs is a big one for Harps. Last year the Cub series marked the start of his downfall. Well now he's already slumping, but this time Maddon will pitch to him with how hot the other hitters behind him have been. This is his chance for redemption. I want to see a big series out of Harper. Multiple homers, extra base hits, maybe even steal a base or two. No 0 for 4 3 K games. Lets bury the Cubs.

His beads will be shrivelled as planting peas. Don't expect much.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #51: June 27, 2017, 08:37:44 AM »
Maddon's ability? What other times has he gotten in to an opponent's head?

He used to mess up Ortiz with the Red Sox when he managed the Rays with some regularity.  The difference was it didn't wreck Ortiz for the season.  I agree with what someone else posted that he is overly full of himself, and can outthink himself.  He isn't doing a particularly good job with the Cubs this season, he can't seem to get them out of their hangover.

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« Reply #52: June 27, 2017, 08:47:18 AM »
The suicide squeeze was an example of how Maddon out-managed Rusty. Sending runners, double steals set the whole thing up. He emasculated both Harper and Zimmerman last year and last night looked like more of the same.  We'll see how Harper does from this point on.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #53: June 27, 2017, 09:02:56 AM »
He used to mess up Ortiz with the Red Sox when he managed the Rays with some regularity.  The difference was it didn't wreck Ortiz for the season.  I agree with what someone else posted that he is overly full of himself, and can outthink himself.  He isn't doing a particularly good job with the Cubs this season, he can't seem to get them out of their hangover.

.277/.390/.540 hitter against Tampa. Not sure that counts as "messing" with Ortiz.

It's clear Maddon is a superior manager. But I have yet to see anything that he gets in players heads. Harper gets in his own head. Also, it's pretty obvious that last year, he was hurt.

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« Reply #54: June 27, 2017, 09:09:34 AM »
The suicide squeeze was an example of how Maddon out-managed Rusty.

I didn't think it was a suicide squeeze.  From the replay, it looked to me like the runner at third held up just long enough to see that the batter got the bunt down. 
That isn't meant to contradict your point, it was a great call.  I wish we would do it occasionally and I think the reason we don't is that most of our players are lousy bunters.  Which is on the manager.

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« Reply #55: June 27, 2017, 11:32:45 AM »
I didn't think it was a suicide squeeze.  From the replay, it looked to me like the runner at third held up just long enough to see that the batter got the bunt down. 
That isn't meant to contradict your point, it was a great call.  I wish we would do it occasionally and I think the reason we don't is that most of our players are lousy bunters.  Which is on the manager.

The Nationals are typically poor at base running too.

I think we sent someone from 3rd on a bunt this season and the man on 3rd was either tagged out at home or caught in a rundown.
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« Reply #56: June 27, 2017, 11:39:31 AM »
The Nationals are typically poor at base running too.

I think we sent someone from 3rd on a bunt this season and the man on 3rd was either tagged out at home or caught in a rundown.
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Then there was Difo who started to come home from 3rd on a bunt, stopped, stood there, started to go back to third, then went back towards home and was so caught it wasn't funny.

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« Reply #57: June 27, 2017, 12:05:31 PM »
Then there was Difo who started to come home from 3rd on a bunt, stopped, stood there, started to go back to third, then went back towards home and was so caught it wasn't funny.


I think that's the play N2P is alluding to.

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« Reply #58: June 27, 2017, 12:21:32 PM »

I think that's the play N2P is alluding to.

Quite possibly. I wouldn't put it past the Nats to have more than one that bad, though.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #59: June 28, 2017, 06:48:51 PM »
I'm not sure Maddon got in Harper's head. I think Harper got injured sometime shortly after that Cub series, or maybe shortly before(but it wasn't noticed because he got walked so often in those four games).

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« Reply #60: June 29, 2017, 10:03:25 AM »
From Baseball Reference:

Bryce's hot start last year really only lasted 11 games.  Through 11 games his slash line peaked at .359 /.458/.897/1.356, and by the time the Cubs series came around (17 games later) he was all the way down to  .274/.393/.653/1.046 and dropped the rest of the year. 

This year is vastly different.  His hot start extended into mid-May, slashing .388/.503/.767/1.271 through May 16th (38 games), and his slump lasted 16 games in which he slashed .155/.242/.310/.553, at which point the hitting streak began (on June 8th, and he has only had two hitless games since then), and has slashed .325/.410/.506/.916 in those 20 games, for an overall line for the season (71 games that he has played in, game 78 of the season) of .319/.422/.589/.1.011

Last year at game 78 of the season his slash line was (gulp) .258/.403/.496/.898 and falling off a cliff.  I think there was some undisclosed injury as others has posted here.   


 

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« Reply #61: June 29, 2017, 11:57:00 AM »
FWIW:  http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2017/06/patient-and-smooth-again-harper-getting-his-act-back-together.html

Over his last 20 games, Harper is batting .325 with a .411 on-base percentage and .917 OPS.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #62: June 29, 2017, 07:57:41 PM »
Bryce K's with bases loaded in 7th today. Fast ball froze him like a block of ice. Guess he was looking for breaking stuff which usually gets him out.  Followed by Zim again failing with sacks full against Cubs.

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Offline Slumpbuster

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #64: June 30, 2017, 09:16:24 PM »
Where has his power gone? Just three homers in the whole month of May.

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« Reply #65: July 01, 2017, 02:07:23 AM »
Where has his power gone? Just three homers in the whole month of May.

This is who he is. He's the David Lynch of baseball. The highs are high but the lows are so low. We shouldn't spend serious coin on him.

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« Reply #66: July 01, 2017, 09:51:26 AM »
FWIW:  http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2017/06/patient-and-smooth-again-harper-getting-his-act-back-together.html

Over his last 20 games, Harper is batting .325 with a .411 on-base percentage and .917 OPS.
You can build a lineup around a nine hundred OPS, but you don't give that hitter a multi-hundred million dollar contract.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #67: July 01, 2017, 02:44:32 PM »
You can build a lineup around a nine hundred OPS, but you don't give that hitter a multi-hundred million dollar contract.

Uh .... I'm pretty sure in baseball, that's exactly what you do.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #68: July 01, 2017, 02:57:29 PM »
Where has his power gone? Just three homers in the whole month of May.

He's a streaky home run hitter. He'll rip off five in a week and everybody will be backing up the Brink's truck again.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #69: July 02, 2017, 05:50:16 AM »
He actually had 6 Hr in May, but only 3 in June

Where has his power gone? Just three homers in the whole month of May.

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #70: July 02, 2017, 06:32:41 AM »
He actually had 6 Hr in May, but only 3 in June

My guess is that he isn't "trying" to hit a HR but rather just putting barrel on the ball and in hopes that he launches a few. I think the drop in BA of 50 points plus prompted this approach. But , what the hell do I know?

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« Reply #71: July 02, 2017, 06:49:26 AM »
Could be - also could be how he is being pitched

My guess is that he isn't "trying" to hit a HR but rather just putting barrel on the ball and in hopes that he launches a few. I think the drop in BA of 50 points plus prompted this approach. But , what the hell do I know?

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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #72: July 18, 2017, 05:36:13 PM »
Bump -

.329/.436/.612/1.048 - 2nd best OPS in MLB behind Aaron Judge.  And seems to be doing it very quietly, with very little national media attention, due to Judge's out-of-this-world first half of the season.  Might be a good thing, i.e. this excellence is kind of what is expected of him so it is not a big deal like it was in 2015


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Re: Harper, 2016 Repeat?
« Reply #74: July 18, 2017, 07:22:08 PM »
Bump -

.329/.436/.612/1.048 - 2nd best OPS in MLB behind Aaron Judge.  And seems to be doing it very quietly, with very little national media attention, due to Judge's out-of-this-world first half of the season.  Might be a good thing, i.e. this excellence is kind of what is expected of him so it is not a big deal like it was in 2015

Judge has been slumping lbig time since the ASG too.  Probably trying too hard to live up to all the attention.

Bryce has gone through some power slumps this year, but he sure still keeps getting on base a lot during those slumps.