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Have you become apathetic towards the regular season?

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Offline Slateman

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #150: August 04, 2017, 02:10:38 PM »
Interesting stuff.  Despite owning the third best record in baseball, and projected to remain there, the Nats have the lowest World Series Champion % of any division leader, and less than a 50% of making it out of the divisional series.  I know its all a guess,but its pretty depressing.
Like I said, we're the Capitals of baseball.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #151: August 04, 2017, 02:13:25 PM »
It’s because the Dodgers and Cubs are in the NL too. Along with good wild card teams. Given the Dodgers dominance I would have expected a higher percentage for them too. I imagine the presence of the Nats depresses that as well.

What

They've played the Dodgers once in the post season and never the Cubs.

They don't have a WS because for five seasons this team has relied on their starting pitching going 7+ innings and their lineup hitting home runs. Guess what goes away on cold, October nights against other good hitting lineups that are totally focused?

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #152: August 04, 2017, 02:15:32 PM »
I'd say I'm apathetic at this exact moment but I'll be much more tuned in as guys start to return from injury to see how they progress as we get closer to October.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #153: August 04, 2017, 02:16:38 PM »
I'd say I'm apathetic at this exact moment but I'll be much more tuned in as guys start to return from injury to see how they progress as we get closer to October.
Same. If this team were still healthy (and I mean like Eaton still healthy too), the regular season would be pretty damn exciting, as I have a feeling we'd be closing in on a pretty special number of wins.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #154: August 04, 2017, 02:20:29 PM »
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/seasonpreview_mlbteampredictions/mlb-team-predictions-2016-season

So random almost half of the experts picked the correct WS champion at the beginning of the year. Yep, random.

You talk about preparation not sufficient? The Warriors literally lucked in to Kevin Durant. But they were prepared. They had cap space. And the NBA is the way it is because one or two players can dominate an entire game. Neither football nor baseball is like that.

Here's the NFL predicitons for the NFC last year: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000693407/article/2016-nfc-playoff-predictions-east-should-be-hotly-contested
One person had the Falcons getting a WC. One.

Hockey is far and away the most luck based sport. The puck literally bounces everywhere. Then football with its one game approach and weirdly shaped ball and odd scoring rules.

Success is not random.

Not completely random. But not completely based on skill and roster management. And the amount of randomness is higher in baseball.

It’s cute that you think that sportwriters and TV blowhards are experts. How cute. If you look at the actual experts, Vegas oddsmakers, it looks like they have gotten two right in the past 10 years. Last years’ cubs and 2013 Red Sox.
But I’m sure you know more than them.
In fact since you know more than everyone, including multiple front offices, why don’t you apply for a GM job somewhere.
Jeez. Can’t even get a guy to admit that luck plays a role in sports.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #155: August 04, 2017, 02:24:25 PM »
What

They've played the Dodgers once in the post season and never the Cubs.

They don't have a WS because for five seasons this team has relied on their starting pitching going 7+ innings and their lineup hitting home runs. Guess what goes away on cold, October nights against other good hitting lineups that are totally focused?
Do you even know what we are talking about?
Those numbers are based on probabilities and win percentages and run differentials and team WAR and other stats. Not some analysts’ assessment of matchups. It’s simple numbers crunched in a computer.

So I stand by my assessment. The reason the Nats WS probability is lower than you might expect is probably because a statistically historic good team is currently in the NL too.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #156: August 04, 2017, 03:25:32 PM »
They don't make shows like that anymore.

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Someone on here is slipping.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #157: August 04, 2017, 03:29:00 PM »
They don't make shows like that anymore.

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Wait, that was a TV show. I thought it was only a movie... :)

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #158: August 04, 2017, 03:37:42 PM »
Wait, that was a TV show. I thought it was only a movie... :)




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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #159: August 04, 2017, 03:39:10 PM »

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #160: August 04, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »


I know you think I’m stupid, but come on... :hysterical:



I don't think you're stupid at all. Besides, this was a case of maybe you just not knowing about an old show. :shrug:

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #161: August 04, 2017, 03:59:44 PM »


I don't think you're stupid at all. Besides, this was a case of maybe you just not knowing about an old show. :shrug:

The thing is, the angels of the 70s were so much superior (except Kate Jackson) But I admit that I only got to see the show in reruns.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #162: August 04, 2017, 04:00:41 PM »
The thing is, the angels of the 70s were so much superior (except Kate Jackson) But I admit that I only got to see the show in reruns.
Kate Jackson was the best angel. She was awesome in Dark Shadows also.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #163: August 04, 2017, 04:03:23 PM »
Kate Jackson was the best angel. She was awesome in Dark Shadows also.

Depends on our definitions of best.  Keep in mind I was like 3 when the show ended. And like 12 when I finally watched it.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #164: August 04, 2017, 04:04:24 PM »
Depends on our definitions of best.  Keep in mind I was like 3 when the show ended. And like 12 when I finally watched it.
Prettiest. The others were all hair.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #165: August 04, 2017, 04:09:27 PM »
Kate Jackson was the best angel. She was awesome in Dark Shadows also.
Kate was called the one who could act at the time.  Kind of strange given Fawcett's later career.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #166: August 04, 2017, 04:12:37 PM »
The thing is, the angels of the 70s were so much superior (except Kate Jackson) But I admit that I only got to see the show in reruns.


A lot of people liked Kate Jackson.



I made a reference to an old show once and the person I was talking to said, "how old are you?" :lmao:



Kate was called the one who could act at the time.



:hysterical:  They were all horrible actors.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #167: August 04, 2017, 07:09:50 PM »
The Cubs were a heavy favorite last year that ended up winning it all, but that's pretty rare in baseball. When the Giants won it in 2014, they were a Wild Card. The Royals made it in 2014 as a Wild Card, and nobody saw them going back in 2015. The Mets made it in 2015 after not even making the playoffs in 2014, or for quite a few years.

The team with the best record very rarely wins it all in baseball.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #168: August 04, 2017, 09:34:07 PM »
19.1 percent right now.  https://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx 
Less than 1 in five.

After the play in games there will be 8 teams, 1/5 > 1/8 by a wide margin.  1/8 being the average probability.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #169: August 04, 2017, 09:51:00 PM »
I used to enjoy the regular season but then my seat cost $7  at RFK in an area roughly equivalent to section 220at Nats Park and I could park in lot 6 for $10 and be what is $45 close today. There was Livo tossing his equipment into the stands after he was pulled from the mound and the emergency room at GW Hospital brining in extra staff whenever Cadiac Chad aka The Chief took the mound ...those were


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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #170: August 04, 2017, 10:42:19 PM »


I don't think you're stupid at all. Besides, this was a case of maybe you just not knowing about an old show. :shrug:

I'm a little disappointed in you in particular, maybe I just need to take an eraser to that shot.

Offline Ray D

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #171: August 05, 2017, 07:52:00 AM »
After the play in games there will be 8 teams, 1/5 > 1/8 by a wide margin.  1/8 being the average probability.
Well yeah but my point was that the Dodgers are a so-called "historically great team" and their chance are 1 in 5.  Proves you can't buy a championship, which is what some of our posters think is possible.

Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #172: August 05, 2017, 09:46:31 AM »
The Cubs were preseason favorites to win the World Series in 2004 and didn't even make the playoffs. Vegas oddsmakers are wrong all the time.

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #173: August 05, 2017, 02:10:43 PM »
So what's the playoff roster going to look like with some of those on injured list coming back to health ?  Also, in order to participate in the playoffs, does a player have to be on the roster by Sept 1st ?

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Re: Apathetically awaiting the post season?
« Reply #174: August 05, 2017, 03:05:49 PM »
So what's the playoff roster going to look like with some of those on injured list coming back to health ?  Also, in order to participate in the playoffs, does a player have to be on the roster by Sept 1st ?

No...we went thru that last year...just in the organization...