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Roster Moves (2017)
« Topic Start: March 31, 2017, 05:46:52 PM »
Clint Robinson clears waivers, will report to Syracuse and is off the 40-man.

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« Reply #1: March 31, 2017, 05:50:21 PM »
Clint Robinson clears waivers, will report to Syracuse and is off the 40-man.

Sounds about right.

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« Reply #2: March 31, 2017, 06:07:57 PM »
Sounds about right.

I'm guessing if someone were to document the players who spent the most time in the majors and earned the least Robinson would be near the top.  What, three years at league minimum?

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Re: Roster Moves (2017)
« Reply #3: April 02, 2017, 02:05:41 PM »
Guthrie to Syracuse.

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« Reply #4: April 02, 2017, 03:45:22 PM »
Guthrie to Syracuse.
:clap:  I figured he'd opt out.  Nice to have inventory. 

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« Reply #5: April 02, 2017, 04:37:23 PM »
:clap:  I figured he'd opt out.  Nice to have inventory. 
He could be starting on April 9th depending on Rendons recovery. He isn't a quick healer if I recall from 2015.

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« Reply #6: April 03, 2017, 08:22:06 PM »
Guthrie likely to start Saturday per Zuck. Ross has to spend 10 days in the minors.

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« Reply #7: April 03, 2017, 08:30:06 PM »
Guthrie likely to start Saturday per Zuck. Ross has to spend 10 days in the minors.

Why doesn't Guthrie have to spend 10 days in the minors too?

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« Reply #8: April 03, 2017, 09:04:08 PM »
Why doesn't Guthrie have to spend 10 days in the minors too?

10 day rule only applies if you're on an option.  If you are taken off the 40-man (or were never on it to start with, like Guthrie), no time limit applies.

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« Reply #9: April 03, 2017, 09:14:17 PM »
10 day rule only applies if you're on an option.  If you are taken off the 40-man (or were never on it to start with, like Guthrie), no time limit applies.

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« Reply #10: April 03, 2017, 09:48:02 PM »
Zuck also notes that the next time we need a 5th starter is 4/22, so Ross will be in Syracuse for a while.

I'm curious, do all clubs do this?  I'd think it would make more sense to still run five starters and let everyone get extra rest early in the season.  Is there some sort of science behind keeping everyone on a regular five day schedule even if it means a 4 man rotation for a while?

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« Reply #11: April 04, 2017, 09:15:11 AM »
Zuck also notes that the next time we need a 5th starter is 4/22, so Ross will be in Syracuse for a while.

I'm curious, do all clubs do this?  I'd think it would make more sense to still run five starters and let everyone get extra rest early in the season.  Is there some sort of science behind keeping everyone on a regular five day schedule even if it means a 4 man rotation for a while?
Lots of teams do it.  Maybe early in the season it helps to stay on a regular schedule to build strength and get used to the recovery cycle, then later in the season the extra rest helps more.

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« Reply #12: April 04, 2017, 10:48:21 AM »
Lots of teams do it.  Maybe early in the season it helps to stay on a regular schedule to build strength and get used to the recovery cycle, then later in the season the extra rest helps more.

Yep and some pitchers thrive on a very steady schedule while others are a little more adaptable. Roark for example is a much better pitcher on regular rest and a clockwork schedule, whereas Max has a little more tolerance for short rest or long rest.  Gio on long rest is a hot mess (even messier than usual).

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Re: Roster Moves (2017)
« Reply #13: April 04, 2017, 12:24:01 PM »
Excited to see Gutherie start! Go get 'em Guts!!!

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« Reply #14: April 05, 2017, 01:42:24 PM »
Zuck also notes that the next time we need a 5th starter is 4/22, so Ross will be in Syracuse for a while.

I'm not sure how they won't need a 5th starter until the 22nd, unless they throw a bullpen game on the 9th:

April 3rd - Strasburg
April 5th - Roark
April 6th - Gonzalez
April 7th - Scherzer
April 8th - Strasburg
April 9th - Roark - 3 days rest?
April 10th - Gonzalez - 3 days rest?
April 11th - Scherzer - 3 days rest?

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« Reply #15: April 05, 2017, 01:48:05 PM »
I'm not sure how they won't need a 5th starter until the 22nd, unless they throw a bullpen game on the 9th:

April 3rd - Strasburg
April 5th - Roark
April 6th - Gonzalez
April 7th - Scherzer
April 8th - Strasburg
April 9th - Roark - 3 days rest?
April 10th - Gonzalez - 3 days rest?
April 11th - Scherzer - 3 days rest?

Guthrie likely pitches on the 9th.  Then Ross is up for the 22nd (and for good after that)

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Re: Roster Moves (2017)
« Reply #16: April 05, 2017, 01:51:52 PM »
Guthrie likely pitches on the 9th.  Then Ross is up for the 22nd (and for good after that)

I missed that part earlier in the thread.  Thanks.

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Re: Roster Moves (2017)
« Reply #17: April 05, 2017, 05:24:04 PM »
So is Perez going to get cut or keep Gutherie if he pitches well/ Any thoughts?

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« Reply #18: April 05, 2017, 05:35:35 PM »
I have a hard time seeing Perez getting cut unless he fails in the LOOGY role. He did pretty well when that's all he was asked to do last year.

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« Reply #19: April 07, 2017, 11:08:23 PM »
Nats have selected Guthrie's contract.  MLBTR looks at the possible roster impacts:

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The Nationals are set to select the contract of veteran righty Jeremy Guthrie, manager Dusty Baker told reporters including Dan Kolko of MASNsports.com (via Twitter). As had been expected, he’ll make a start against the Phillies tomorrow, though it’s not yet clear what his role will be thereafter.

Entering camp, Guthrie seemed a longshot to make the talent-laden Nats roster. After all, he struggled badly in 2015 and did not suit up last season. But Guthrie reportedly showed up with a big fastball and turned in a nice spring stat line.

Over 18 2/3 innings, he allowed just five earned runs on a meager ten hits while racking up 15 punchouts to go with five walks. Whether or not he can carry that success into the regular season in his age-38 campaign remains to be seen, but it could be interesting to see how the longtime starter fares in a relief role. To this stage, over a dozen MLB seasons, Guthrie has entered from the pen only 33 times.

The Nats have long been expected to turn over the fifth starter’s role to Joe Ross, who owns a 3.52 ERA over the first 181 2/3 innings of his young career. But he was optioned to open the year, allowing the club to better utilize that roster spot to begin the season. That also meant Ross couldn’t be recalled for tomorrow’s outing, since he’s required to spend ten days on optional assignment.

A corresponding move has yet to be announced, but the obvious approach would be to option one of their reserves — infielder Wilmer Difo or outfielder Michael Taylor, most likely. Things get trickier after that, though. Washington could simply outright Guthrie after the start. It could move him to the pen and bump another reliever when it’s time to call upon Ross — though unless there’s a DL placement needed that’d likely mean placing the out-of-options Enny Romero on waivers. Or, that pen placement could be facilitated by optioning whichever reserve (Difo or Taylor) doesn’t lose his spot tomorrow. Perhaps there’s at least some possibility, too, that the club could hold Ross back in Triple-A and allow Guthrie to keep a rotation spot for some time.

It’s hard to know just how the team will proceed at this part; it could be dependent at least in part upon how Guthrie performs, and the plan could always change as circumstances dictate. The most likely course, it seems, would be for the optionable position players to head back to Triple-A for regular playing time to make room for Ross, leaving Guthrie to function in a swingman role. Baker could utilize him much as he did Yusmeiro Petit in 2016, when Petit threw 62 innings over 36 relief appearances and one start.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/nationals-to-select-contract-of-jeremy-guthrie.html

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« Reply #20: April 08, 2017, 12:34:20 AM »
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Re: Roster Moves (2017)
« Reply #22: April 08, 2017, 05:10:12 PM »
Taylor to Syracuse to make room for Guthrie.

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