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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #175: April 20, 2017, 11:38:22 PM »
I like letting Koda learn in the 8th under Kelley. If he can turn into a closer it's a jackpot as he's under team control until 2023. Then Rizzo will look like a genius.

*it will likely not work out this way.

But that happens if we get to deadline and he's got an ERA of 0.7 and a WHIP of 0.6?

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #176: April 21, 2017, 10:08:11 AM »
I like letting Koda learn in the 8th under Kelley. If he can turn into a closer it's a jackpot as he's under team control until 2023. Then Rizzo will look like a genius.

*it will likely not work out this way.

But that happens if we get to deadline and he's got an ERA of 0.7 and a WHIP of 0.6?

Kelley looks so much better out there than Trienan, seems much more in control and confident, isn't nibbling at the corners, trusts his stuff, etc.  Treinan still pitches like a starter.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #177: April 22, 2017, 11:40:14 AM »
Romero looked way better last night. I don't think he has to worry about being compared to HROD when Treinen can't throw strikes. Blanton, well, not so much.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #178: April 22, 2017, 11:50:03 AM »
Romero looked way better last night. I don't think he has to worry about being compared to HROD when Treinen can't throw strikes. Blanton, well, not so much.

Still want to quality relievers, including one closer level, before the deadline. Preferably before May.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #179: April 24, 2017, 06:38:39 PM »
I have faith in Kelley and Glover right now.

Treinen will come around, he's proven serviceable the last few years.

I have hope Romero will come around too, control has been his biggest problem in the past, yet this year he has only 2 walks in 7 innings to go along with 7 Ks.  He's looked sharper his last few outings.  With time, I think Maddux will make him good and potentially even great. 

Perez is Perez.  Meh.  Hopefully Enny is in good form and Solis does well when he comes back so we can DFA this bum when we get a real reliever added to the mix.

Blanton has been a great reclamation project the last few years and has turned himself into a quality middle relief/set-up man.  The problem so far is that he's given up 3 hr in only 8 innings.  In those 8 innings he has 7 Ks, 2 walks given up, and 7 hits given up.  He'll come around when the hr rate drops with a larger sample size.

Solis will bounce back when he comes back from the DL.

Well that's the primary 7. 

I see the pen as being middle of the pack by midseason.  All we'll need to make the jump is one above-average closer to solidify things.

Albers is also worth more looks.  He had a great 2012-2015 but a horrendous 2016.


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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #180: April 24, 2017, 11:51:39 PM »
Oh I'm watching the bullpen, all right, though I wish I wasn't.


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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #181: April 25, 2017, 06:55:27 AM »
This just in: The bullpen still blows.

Naming Treinen the closer was a disaster. It's clearly obvious he doesn't trust his stuff now. Complete mental case.

Enny Romero has solved his walks issue by simply giving up home runs.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #182: April 25, 2017, 07:03:59 AM »
Jacob Turner for Colome. Do it Rizzo!!

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #183: April 25, 2017, 09:17:03 AM »
Looks like Dusty is trying to put Enny into the higher leverage lefty slot, at least until Solis is back.  It blew up, of course.  Treinen is now 5th in the bullpen pecking order, behind Kelley, Glover, Blanton, and Solis (Romero until Solis is back).  Albers looks like a mop up guy for them right now.  Perez has looked OK.  I'll be curious who is sent down or released when Solis is back.  They may give him a little extra rehab while they sort things out, but by rights, probably Treinen should be in AAA (assuming they aren't cutting Blanton or Romero).

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #184: April 25, 2017, 09:28:43 AM »
It'll probably be Treinen, barring an injury to someone else; his issues now are mental and a lot of guys need to go to the minors to work those types of things out.

Enny's issue last night seemed to be more of pitch selection and not execution.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #185: April 25, 2017, 10:35:32 AM »
Treinen needs a "I'm getting destroyed" DL stint. He was too good last year to be unusable now.

Need Solis back. Blanton has gone missing.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #186: April 25, 2017, 10:59:57 AM »
Treinen = Storen 2.0

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #187: April 25, 2017, 11:08:13 AM »
Treinen needs a "I'm getting destroyed" DL stint. He was too good last year to be unusable now.

Need Solis back. Blanton has gone missing.

Treinen was lucky last year. His FIP was mid 3s

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #188: April 25, 2017, 11:11:54 AM »
We are on the same pace the Cubs were last year. We have an offense that is just as good, if not better (if it stays healthy). Rizzo needs to make a move as soon as possible to fix the pen. At the bare minimum, a closer. More than likely, we need a closer and back of the pen lefty.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #189: April 25, 2017, 11:36:26 AM »
Looks like Dusty is trying to put Enny into the higher leverage lefty slot, at least until Solis is back.  It blew up, of course.

You sure? He had Pérez in pretty high lefty spots last series.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #190: April 25, 2017, 12:03:54 PM »
I won't go too crazy over last night, Coors is just kinda absurd for everyone.

I still would like to acquire a legit lockdown closer though. Having that one guy just makes it so much easier for everyone else. Look at the impact Miller had in Cleveland or Chapman in Chicago last year.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #191: April 26, 2017, 12:55:47 AM »
Blanton is total dogcrap.  Plain and simple.  I don't know how to say it any plainer than that.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #192: April 26, 2017, 02:44:27 AM »
Mike Rizzo is a butthole!

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #193: April 26, 2017, 03:28:50 AM »
Blanton is total dogcrap.  Plain and simple.  I don't know how to say it any plainer than that.

It irritates me that he was so effective for the Dodgers last year in the NLDS before wetting himself against the Cubs. No way the front office goes after him if he pitched poorly against us.


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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #194: April 26, 2017, 04:39:22 AM »
Mike Rizzo is a butthole!

All he had to do is re-sign Mark, complete bonehead.

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« Reply #195: April 26, 2017, 06:38:23 AM »
All he had to do is re-sign Mark, complete bonehead.
Melancon's WHIP so far this year is 1.765. Not exactly lights out.  Should have signed someone else.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #196: April 26, 2017, 08:09:44 AM »

It irritates me that he was so effective for the Dodgers last year in the NLDS before wetting himself against the Cubs. No way the front office goes after him if he pitched poorly against us.

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All he had to do is re-sign Mark, complete bonehead.

Melancon wanted to go do hot yoga and ride bicycles with his BFF Ryan Vogelsong and his new BFF's Pence and Posey. We would have had to beat their offer by a mile and while I really had wanted him to stay, Melancon isn't worth 4 years/$70m.


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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #197: April 26, 2017, 08:24:30 AM »
It irritates me that he was so effective for the Dodgers last year in the NLDS before wetting himself against the Cubs. No way the front office goes after him if he pitched poorly against us.
It appears that his life's calling was beating the Nationals in the NLDS. Now that he's done that, he's in total "coast" mode.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #198: April 26, 2017, 08:30:15 AM »
I hated and laughed at Blanton for years until he became an effective reliever for the Phils and Dodgers.  I thought he had found his niche.  Looks more like it was his revenge against me for poking fun of him.

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Re: 2017 bullpen watch
« Reply #199: April 26, 2017, 08:52:30 AM »
All he had to do is re-sign Mark, complete bonehead.
Melancon has been terrible this year also.