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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #25: March 14, 2017, 06:23:35 PM »
It'd be kind of sad to just see them release what will probably be a nice player this year for someone just because of money. I'm not even sure he's worse than Wieters now, he's also sure to land on the DL at some point.

I'd rather have him and Wieters split time and trade Lobaton for a penny with Severino backing them up. The difference is 2.6 million.

Same. I'll say it again: Norris smashes lefties.

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« Reply #26: March 14, 2017, 08:48:46 PM »
At this point, a Norris/Lind platoon at 1B seems more productive than entrenching Zim there.

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« Reply #27: March 14, 2017, 11:05:51 PM »
At this point, a Norris/Lind platoon at 1B seems more productive than entrenching Zim there.

And when he gets hurt it would come to that anyway.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #28: March 14, 2017, 11:20:34 PM »
Olney says the Rays have interest in Norris. Norris for Colome, do it Rizzo!

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« Reply #29: March 14, 2017, 11:21:46 PM »
Olney says the Rays have interest in Norris. Norris for Colome, do it Rizzo!

They are considering taking him for nothing. And they still may not.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #30: March 15, 2017, 08:11:18 AM »
Olney says the Rays have interest in Norris. Norris for Colome, do it Rizzo!
how bad is Salvador Perez hurt? 

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« Reply #31: March 15, 2017, 08:24:00 AM »
how bad is Salvador Perez hurt? 
No structural damage. Shouldn't be out for more than the first month

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #32: March 15, 2017, 10:56:20 AM »
Another year, another year in which the Nationals seem to have no long-term plan or strategy.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #33: March 15, 2017, 11:00:17 AM »
Another year, another year in which the Nationals seem to have no long-term plan or strategy.

I'm not concerned about the long-term strategy, we've got a good line of succession for our key positions.  I'm more concerned about the short-term strategy.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #34: March 15, 2017, 11:17:10 AM »
And he's released. This was weird.

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« Reply #35: March 15, 2017, 11:18:12 AM »
Per MLB Trade Rumors, he's been released. No takers on waivers, no need for him on the 40 man. We owe him 688k$ and most likely someone will end up taking him now that he's free.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #36: March 15, 2017, 11:42:32 AM »
Per MLB Trade Rumors, he's been released. No takers on waivers, no need for him on the 40 man. We owe him 688k$ and most likely someone will end up taking him now that he's free.

i saw speculation last night that he may end up in Colorado as their catcher just got hurt.  Wished it would have worked out, but such is life (and baseball).

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« Reply #37: March 15, 2017, 11:55:36 AM »
i saw speculation last night that he may end up in Colorado as their catcher just got hurt.  Wished it would have worked out, but such is life (and baseball).
Their firstbaseman also just broke his hand. Probably a good idea for them to pick up Norris and get a nice lefty option.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #38: March 15, 2017, 11:56:36 AM »
I hope Norris does well where ever he ends up.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #39: March 15, 2017, 07:55:35 PM »
I'd rather have him and Wieters split time and trade Lobaton for a penny with Severino backing them up. The difference is 2.6 million.

Actual difference is just 1.9 mil with what we pay him to leave.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #40: March 17, 2017, 08:44:34 AM »
Actual difference is just 1.9 mil with what we pay him to leave.

Stupid , stupid move by Rizzo. This will come back to bite us in the ass

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #41: March 17, 2017, 09:38:33 AM »
Sandy Leon, of all people, is one of the two catchers for Boston. Maybe Norris goes there?

Could the Nats have sent Norris to Syracuse as backup to Wieters? Lobie is fine once a week, but if Wieters gets hurt or does not have "it" anymore, who becomes the regular?

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« Reply #42: March 17, 2017, 09:42:18 AM »
Sandy Leon, of all people, is one of the two catchers for Boston. Maybe Norris goes there?

Could the Nats have sent Norris to Syracuse as backup to Wieters? Lobie is fine once a week, but if Wieters gets hurt or does not have "it" anymore, who becomes the regular?
Why would he? They have a top prospect in Swihart, and Sandy Leon hit .310/.369/.476. Why would Boston want him? LHH DH platoon?

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #43: March 17, 2017, 09:50:50 AM »
Sandy Leon, of all people, is one of the two catchers for Boston. Maybe Norris goes there?

Could the Nats have sent Norris to Syracuse as backup to Wieters? Lobie is fine once a week, but if Wieters gets hurt or does not have "it" anymore, who becomes the regular?

Norris still had options, so they could have sent him to Syracuse, but then they would have had to pay him the full contract, and they would have had a very unhappy player.  Also, Severino would lose playing time.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #44: March 17, 2017, 09:52:45 AM »
Sandy Leon, of all people, is one of the two catchers for Boston. Maybe Norris goes there?

Could the Nats have sent Norris to Syracuse as backup to Wieters? Lobie is fine once a week, but if Wieters gets hurt or does not have "it" anymore, who becomes the regular?

I assumed he was out of options or had 5 years of service time - neither appears to be the case (and WaPo agrees: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/03/15/nationals-release-catcher-derek-norris/?utm_term=.7b8c0e58b5be).  Basically, they didn't want to pay him to sit in the minors.  That's just cheap.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #45: March 17, 2017, 10:08:00 PM »
Why would he? They have a top prospect in Swihart, and Sandy Leon hit .310/.369/.476. Why would Boston want him? LHH DH platoon?

He swings right.

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« Reply #46: March 17, 2017, 11:07:34 PM »
Why would he? They have a top prospect in Swihart, and Sandy Leon hit .310/.369/.476. Why would Boston want him? LHH DH platoon?
Because they found out Swihart is not really good? I call it the Giolito effect.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #47: March 18, 2017, 01:01:36 PM »
Why would he? They have a top prospect in Swihart, and Sandy Leon hit .310/.369/.476. Why would Boston want him? LHH DH platoon?
Leon happens to be hitting like old Leon.  There's a real question of who gets what time there.  They probably are willing to go with 2 defense-first catchers and let Swihart get in a lot of work in AAA at the start of the year.  Neither Vazquez nor Leon have options, so they can't really add Norris without waiving one or the other.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #48: March 18, 2017, 01:03:19 PM »
Because they found out Swihart is not really good? I call it the Giolito effect.
Actually, Swihart is hitting very well.  They are sending him down because he has an option and the others don't, and they want him to focus exclusively on catching after jerking him around last year and having him hurt.

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Re: Re: Nationals trade for ... Derek Norris
« Reply #49: March 18, 2017, 01:14:40 PM »
Actually, Swihart is hitting very well.  They are sending him down because he has an option and the others don't, and they want him to focus exclusively on catching after jerking him around last year and having him hurt.
Ok. You mean in spring training?