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Offline tomwvr

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #25: March 10, 2017, 12:36:11 AM »
Stras is too good to waste only pitching 3-4 innings a week.

I said this season - he has had too many problems - give him a YEAR with the Closer job and get his body right - his arm his back ect.

What happens if he blows out his arm in the 8th inning of a game that he is doing incredible in?

I really think he is just not set up with his form and his injury history to toss 7 innings for 25 games a year.


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« Reply #26: March 10, 2017, 08:16:28 AM »
I said this season - he has had too many problems - give him a YEAR with the Closer job and get his body right - his arm his back ect.

What happens if he blows out his arm in the 8th inning of a game that he is doing incredible in?

I really think he is just not set up with his form and his injury history to toss 7 innings for 25 games a year.

It's not an exact fit, but there is precedent for this. The Braves did this with John Smoltz pretty soon after his Tommy John surgery. He eventually went back to the rotation. But it worked out pretty well for both parties.
That being said, they need Strasburg's innings as a starter, so I don't know if this would be smart for the Nats.

Interesting fact I didn't know. Smoltz is the only pitcher in the Hall of Fame to have Tommy John surgery

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #27: March 10, 2017, 08:29:53 AM »
I said this season - he has had too many problems - give him a YEAR with the Closer job and get his body right - his arm his back ect.

What happens if he blows out his arm in the 8th inning of a game that he is doing incredible in?

I really think he is just not set up with his form and his injury history to toss 7 innings for 25 games a year.


The Smoltz project is the precedent for this. I don't think this team is set up to allow for Stras to do anything other than start.  As much as we cringe at the "who will close" question, the rotation is much thinner.  You have "Three Finger" Scherzer, Roark the Reliable, High Beta Gio, and Walking Undead in Ross and Stras.  You can't tap into Fedde or Cole as one of your top 5 at this point.  At least in the bullpen, you are stocked with guys who have stuff and have performed well even if they haven't closed much. 

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #28: March 22, 2017, 01:27:35 PM »
Zuck reports that the Nats have aligned their rotation for the rest of spring training to have Strasburg pitch opening day, followed by Roark and Scherzer.

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #29: April 03, 2017, 10:12:11 AM »
Ummmm .. Grant and Danny are saying that he's going to pitch out of the stretch all season??

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #30: April 03, 2017, 10:12:56 AM »
Ummmm .. Grant and Danny are saying that he's going to pitch out of the stretch all season??
You're only just now hearing this?

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #31: April 03, 2017, 10:13:57 AM »
You're only just now hearing this?

Yeah. I know he did it in ST, but I thought he was just working on things

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« Reply #32: April 03, 2017, 11:33:26 AM »
Yeah. I know he did it in ST, but I thought he was just working on things

His goal is to simplify his mechanics and cut down on the strain on his forearm.

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« Reply #33: April 03, 2017, 12:45:59 PM »
Stras is paid WAYYY too much to become a closer.  That would be a last-ditch move to look into if he has a few more years of injuries and they just give up on him staying healthy as a starter. 

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #34: April 03, 2017, 12:59:03 PM »
His goal is to simplify his mechanics and cut down on the strain on his forearm.

I mean, it is simpler, but I don't see how this effects his forearm.

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« Reply #35: April 03, 2017, 02:06:17 PM »
I mean, it is simpler, but I don't see how this effects his forearm.

Beats me- just repeating what I gleaned from an interview he did early in ST.

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #36: April 03, 2017, 07:45:53 PM »
Looked damn good today, although I do miss it when he Ks 10+, but I'll take 7 IP 2 ER everytime.

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« Reply #37: April 03, 2017, 08:41:24 PM »
He did get hit pretty hard today. But I'll take that start too.

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #38: April 03, 2017, 09:15:13 PM »
He did get pretty hard today. But I'll take that start too.

...are you missing a word there, or...?  did he really "get pretty hard today"?

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« Reply #39: April 03, 2017, 10:25:51 PM »
Really LOL. Changed.

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #41: April 13, 2017, 11:22:47 AM »
Our bullpen is always pitching from the stretch too, so no difference for them.

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« Reply #42: May 27, 2017, 11:55:51 PM »
Zuck notes:  "Combine all of Strasburg's starts over the last two years and you get 34 in total, the typical average for a full, healthy season. In those 34 starts, he is 21-5 with a 3.39 ERA, having struck out 257 batters in 215 innings. The Nationals' record in those games is 27-7."

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« Reply #43: May 28, 2017, 12:08:31 AM »
Zuck notes:  "Combine all of Strasburg's starts over the last two years and you get 34 in total, the typical average for a full, healthy season..."

That's the important part. I don't care what he's doing now if he's not pitching in the post season

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« Reply #44: May 28, 2017, 08:08:49 AM »
6-1. 2.94 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, opponents hitting .213 off him this year.  74Ks in 67.1 IP, just 18BBs.

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Re: Strasburg 2017: The Other Ace
« Reply #45: May 28, 2017, 09:26:27 AM »
He's been a joy to watch. How do you like the decision to sign him over Jordan Zimmermann now?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2710937-jordan-zimmermann-on-unstoppable-path-to-becoming-a-110m-disaster

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« Reply #46: May 28, 2017, 09:29:57 AM »
That's the important part. I don't care what he's doing now if he's not pitching in the post season
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Re: Strasburg 2017: The Other Ace
« Reply #47: May 28, 2017, 09:38:10 AM »
He's been a joy to watch. How do you like the decision to sign him over Jordan Zimmermann now?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2710937-jordan-zimmermann-on-unstoppable-path-to-becoming-a-110m-disaster

That chart makes me want to punch a puppy. How about they show WAR per year on avg or at least what MLB season the pitcher STARTEd the contract with. Just because Scherzer signed in January of 2015  and JZ in November of 2015 doesn't mean they pitched under their respective signed FA deals that year.

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Re: Strasburg 2017: The Other Ace
« Reply #48: May 28, 2017, 10:53:42 AM »
The Nats were not in a position to have to pick one over the other.  JZ wanted a different area to live & work.

He's been a joy to watch. How do you like the decision to sign him over Jordan Zimmermann now?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2710937-jordan-zimmermann-on-unstoppable-path-to-becoming-a-110m-disaster

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Re: Cy Strasburg 2017 - this is the year!
« Reply #49: May 28, 2017, 10:54:44 AM »