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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #225: May 27, 2017, 09:47:23 AM »
I still think I would rather have Norris over Lobaton

I value Loby and his defense/repoire with the pitchers a little more than I think I would Norris's bat.

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« Reply #226: May 27, 2017, 12:16:35 PM »
I value Loby and his defense/repoire with the pitchers a little more than I think I would Norris's bat.

Agreed. Your backup C is gonna suck offensively no matter what anyway, might as well get the best defensive/pitcher handler you can. Plus Loby seems like a great clubhouse guy and his teammates love him. Who knows what you're getting out of Norris who kind of has an jerk-y vibe about him?

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« Reply #227: May 27, 2017, 02:37:39 PM »
Agreed. Your backup C is gonna suck offensively no matter what anyway, might as well get the best defensive/pitcher handler you can. Plus Loby seems like a great clubhouse guy and his teammates love him. Who knows what you're getting out of Norris who kind of has an jerk-y vibe about him?

Chelsea Janes implied that the pitchers hated Norris at one point.

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« Reply #228: August 26, 2017, 04:33:54 PM »
Wieters has an OPS under .600 since the beginning of May.

You can live with bad offense at catcher but the Nats need more from behind plate.

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #229: August 26, 2017, 04:43:22 PM »
but he's clutchy mcclutchface!

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« Reply #230: August 26, 2017, 06:11:59 PM »
I value Loby and his defense/repoire with the pitchers a little more than I think I would Norris's bat.

Bat? He's batting .201,  .258 OBP.

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« Reply #231: August 27, 2017, 07:08:17 AM »
Wieters has increased outfield assists tenfold.

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #232: September 21, 2017, 09:14:57 PM »
Weiters is beyond pathetic. He is entering the realm of Espi. For those who are opting for FA Suzuki may I remind you that Boras negotiated a 2 year deal with Weiters having the option to opt out NOT the Nats. We are freakin stuck with him for another year.

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« Reply #233: September 21, 2017, 11:26:33 PM »
Weiters is beyond pathetic. He is entering the realm of Espi. For those who are opting for FA Suzuki may I remind you that Boras negotiated a 2 year deal with Weiters having the option to opt out NOT the Nats. We are freakin stuck with him for another year.

I'd suggest benching him but neither other option is batting his own weight.

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« Reply #234: September 22, 2017, 07:47:11 AM »
I'd suggest benching him but neither other option is batting his own weight.

Pedro Severino weight: 215
Pedro Severino average: .217

Boom

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« Reply #235: September 22, 2017, 08:00:35 AM »
I'd suggest benching him but neither other option is batting his own weight.

You can always tell him to opt out or get zero at bats next year heading into his next contract

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« Reply #236: September 22, 2017, 08:04:31 AM »
You can always tell him to opt out or get zero at bats next year heading into his next contract
He'd take the zero at bats. 

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« Reply #237: September 22, 2017, 08:08:05 AM »
You can always tell him to opt out or get zero at bats next year heading into his next contract
I like your answer but why would he give a crap as he is receiving 10 mil ? And the Lerners would never let that happen paying a useless bench player that much money. We did pay McLouth (?) 5 mil for absolutely no contribution but double?

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« Reply #238: September 22, 2017, 08:08:38 AM »
If he opts in, the 60 day dl seems like a good idea

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« Reply #239: September 22, 2017, 08:09:12 AM »
I like your answer but why would he give a crap as he is receiving 10 mil ? And the Lerners would never let that happen paying a useless bench player that much money. We did pay McLouth (?) 5 mil for absolutely no contribution but double?

He probably expects to get another decent contract at some point

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« Reply #240: September 22, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
He probably expects to get another decent contract at some point
Yeah, his strategy (or Boras's) is probably to float a rumor that he was injured all season and he's fully recovered.  Even so he'll still probably opt-in, and the threat of zero (or few) at bats will work in his favor - more "recovery" time, and less chances for other teams to see how putrid he really is.

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« Reply #241: September 22, 2017, 08:27:11 AM »
Yeah, his strategy (or Boras's) is probably to float a rumor that he was injured all season and he's fully recovered.  Even so he'll still probably opt-in, and the threat of zero (or few) at bats will work in his favor - more "recovery" time, and less chances for other teams to see how putrid he really is.

At that point he's just washed up- what happens to his value if he's the third catcher on the roster?

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« Reply #242: September 23, 2017, 12:27:25 AM »
You can always tell him to opt out or get zero at bats next year heading into his next contract

I'm stressing about the playoffs not next year.

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #243: February 26, 2018, 11:27:30 PM »
Too soon for an “extend wieters” thread?

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #244: February 27, 2018, 01:35:41 AM »
Too soon for an “extend wieters” thread?

GTFOOH.

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #245: February 27, 2018, 11:34:54 AM »
Kevin Long has supposedly been working with Wieters trying to get him to use his lower half more.  The old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn't apply here.

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« Reply #246: February 27, 2018, 12:38:14 PM »
Kevin Long has supposedly been working with Wieters trying to get him to use his lower half more.  The old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn't apply here.

You can see a difference in his swing on the HR the other day



vs that grand slam he hit in Chicago

https://www.mlb.com/video/wieters-grand-slam-to-center/c-1695631183

  (yes I know it is from the opposite side but it's the best sample I can find of how weird his swing and especially his follow-through got)

The swing in Chicago is all shoulder and upper arm, and the ST shot you can see his feet aren't moving around as much and he's swinging more from his core and his lower half. That's more consistent with how he was swinging early in the 2017 season (and he was batting .273 through the end of May). He is INCREDIBLY strong if he can lob one out on a shoulder-driven swing.  If he can keep his feet planted and swing from his thighs, he'll have good numbers this year.

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #247: February 27, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »
Kevin Long has supposedly been working with Wieters trying to get him to use his lower half more.  The old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn't apply here.

KLong is a realllllly good hitting coach. Would not be surprised if he could squeeze some production out of Wieters.

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« Reply #248: February 27, 2018, 01:21:30 PM »
You can see a difference in his swing on the HR the other day



vs that grand slam he hit in Chicago

https://www.mlb.com/video/wieters-grand-slam-to-center/c-1695631183

  (yes I know it is from the opposite side but it's the best sample I can find of how weird his swing and especially his follow-through got)

The swing in Chicago is all shoulder and upper arm, and the ST shot you can see his feet aren't moving around as much and he's swinging more from his core and his lower half. That's more consistent with how he was swinging early in the 2017 season (and he was batting .273 through the end of May). He is INCREDIBLY strong if he can lob one out on a shoulder-driven swing.  If he can keep his feet planted and swing from his thighs, he'll have good numbers this year.


Are we supposed to take Spring Training seriously?

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Re: Report: Wieters Nearing Deal with Nats
« Reply #249: February 27, 2018, 01:34:03 PM »
You can see a difference in his swing on the HR the other day

Thanks Patti. Here’s hoping it makes a difference through the season.