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Offline Mr Clean

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #25: January 23, 2017, 09:20:47 PM »
Wow, big FU to the Twins, who didn't want de Leon for Dozier.
I read they wanted De Leon +.

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« Reply #26: January 24, 2017, 08:37:39 AM »
I read they wanted De Leon +.
Yeah - sorry, my post was unclear, I meant they didn't think he was a good offer by himself.

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« Reply #27: January 24, 2017, 08:42:04 AM »
Dozier is signed through 2018, very cheap, too.  I'm going to guess that the Twins think he'll put up pretty good numbers and they can sell him in June / July at a premium.  We'll see.  Say if Murphy went down, you'd think they could ask for Robles +.

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« Reply #28: January 24, 2017, 09:49:02 AM »
Wow, big FU to the Twins, who didn't want de Leon for Dozier.

Or the Twins could say, see - if Jose de Leon is the going rate for an obviously lesser player like Logan Forsythe, we were correct in wanting de Leon + for Dozier.

That's the way I see it.

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« Reply #29: January 24, 2017, 10:29:27 AM »
Brett Anderson to the Cubbies. $3.5M. That guy will keep getting paid to do Jack.

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« Reply #30: January 24, 2017, 10:47:02 AM »
Oh to be left handed!

That deal is pending physical... no sure thing with Anderson.

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« Reply #31: January 24, 2017, 11:14:20 AM »
Oh to be left handed!

That deal is pending physical... no sure thing with Anderson.

True and true.

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« Reply #32: January 24, 2017, 11:28:29 AM »
Weird to put this here, but I really wonder what it's like to be an Angels fan. So many people on MLBTR, I know it isn't the place for the most informed fans, are clamoring to sign Matt Wieters. Why? Why would you sign him at all with that awful rotation banking on Richards and maybe Shoemaker at best? The lineup isn't terrible, but I wouldn't call it a world beater either. That team doesn't need more bats, it needs defense and pitching.

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« Reply #33: January 24, 2017, 11:35:02 AM »
Weird to put this here, but I really wonder what it's like to be an Angels fan. So many people on MLBTR, I know it isn't the place for the most informed fans, are clamoring to sign Matt Wieters. Why? Why would you sign him at all with that awful rotation banking on Richards and maybe Shoemaker at best? The lineup isn't terrible, but I wouldn't call it a world beater either. That team doesn't need more bats, it needs defense and pitching.

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« Reply #34: January 24, 2017, 11:50:18 AM »
Weird to put this here, but I really wonder what it's like to be an Angels fan. So many people on MLBTR, I know it isn't the place for the most informed fans, are clamoring to sign Matt Wieters. Why? Why would you sign him at all with that awful rotation banking on Richards and maybe Shoemaker at best? The lineup isn't terrible, but I wouldn't call it a world beater either. That team doesn't need more bats, it needs defense and pitching.

Angels just need wins.

The team is t-8 in projected record according to Fangraphs (84 wins). There are no teams projected to be better than them for the AL wildcard, but there are 6 other teams projected for 82-84 wins.

They have something like $160 million committed for next season, so they are a big payroll team but have plenty of room under the luxury threshold. They have old players for the most part and no farm system.

To sum up: I can't imagine a situation where a team could have a higher value for marginal wins, and their catchers truly suck.

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« Reply #35: January 24, 2017, 12:36:53 PM »
Angels just need wins.

The team is t-8 in projected record according to Fangraphs (84 wins). There are no teams projected to be better than them for the AL wildcard, but there are 6 other teams projected for 82-84 wins.

They have something like $160 million committed for next season, so they are a big payroll team but have plenty of room under the luxury threshold. They have old players for the most part and no farm system.

To sum up: I can't imagine a situation where a team could have a higher value for marginal wins, and their catchers truly suck.

I agree their catchers aren't great, but they need to spend to get arms. I realize that Hammel is basically all that is left out there, but that rotation and bullpen, yikes.

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« Reply #36: January 24, 2017, 03:13:48 PM »
Really depends on the Shoemaker they get. If he's second half of 2016 and all of 2014 they've got a shot. But if he's all of 2015 and first half of 2016... they've got problems.

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« Reply #37: January 24, 2017, 03:25:44 PM »
Weird to put this here, but I really wonder what it's like to be an Angels fan. So many people on MLBTR, I know it isn't the place for the most informed fans, are clamoring to sign Matt Wieters. Why? Why would you sign him at all with that awful rotation banking on Richards and maybe Shoemaker at best? The lineup isn't terrible, but I wouldn't call it a world beater either. That team doesn't need more bats, it needs defense and pitching.
I don't have the defensive metrics to back this up, but I think Maybin/Trout/Calhoun in the OF is pretty solid. Then you have great gloves up the middle with Simmons and Espinosa. Escobar is a weak link at 3B and I'm not sure who is playing 1B. Besides the catcher, they should have great defense up the middle IMO.

They do desperately need pitching. They also need to renovate that stadium a bit.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #40: February 09, 2017, 01:51:34 PM »
Season over.

I like the projection from Fangraphs (same article) better. "FanGraphs’ projection model is more optimistic for Washington, forecasting 90 victories and winning the NL East by six games over the Mets."

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« Reply #41: February 09, 2017, 03:20:36 PM »
I like the projection from Fangraphs (same article) better. "FanGraphs’ projection model is more optimistic for Washington, forecasting 90 victories and winning the NL East by six games over the Mets."
Championship!  I can't believe they actually play the games. Maybe some day it will all be sumulations.

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« Reply #42: February 09, 2017, 04:02:07 PM »
Championship!  I can't believe they actually play the games. Maybe some day it will all be sumulations.

...or something simular...   :D

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« Reply #43: February 09, 2017, 04:03:51 PM »
Championship!  I can't believe they actually play the games. Maybe some day it will all be sumulations.

raise the banner.

"Fangraphs projected NL East Champs 2017"

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« Reply #44: February 09, 2017, 05:28:28 PM »
How the mighty (ex-prospects) have fallen: Desmond Jennings signs minor league deal with Reds.

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« Reply #45: February 09, 2017, 05:48:26 PM »
How the mighty (ex-prospects) have fallen: Desmond Jennings signs minor league deal with Reds.

Domenic Brown signed with the Rox. Waiting for the TINSTAAPP folks to pop in now...

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« Reply #46: February 10, 2017, 08:09:42 AM »
Domenic Brown signed with the Rox. Waiting for the TINSTAAPP folks to pop in now...

Brown was actually an All-Star at one point. Crazy.

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« Reply #47: February 10, 2017, 09:57:21 AM »
Brown was actually an All-Star at one point. Crazy.
Had one great month. 

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« Reply #48: February 10, 2017, 06:49:35 PM »
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« Reply #49: February 11, 2017, 11:54:21 PM »
Rosenthal says the braves are close to trading for Brandon Phillips, the guy who didn't want to come here.