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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #550: September 09, 2017, 05:57:30 PM »
brewers are putting it on the cubs.

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« Reply #551: September 09, 2017, 06:25:12 PM »
brewers are putting it on the cubs.

The NL Central is going to be a dog fight and I think the Brewers end up on top. But they just lost Jimmy Nelson for the season (rotator cuff) and that will be a big blow to them.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #552: September 09, 2017, 06:41:58 PM »
The NL Central is going to be a dog fight and I think the Brewers end up on top.



that could be good but I don't see it happening.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #553: September 10, 2017, 05:50:00 PM »
Baseball Prospectus has forecasts for remainder of the season based on expected rosters and actual schedules.

They currently have the Dodgers at 106.2 wins vs. the Nats at 98.6, so it's certainly possible, though unlikely.  They have the Dbacks at 95.2.  In the AL, the Astros 99.5 and Indians 97.5 are the top 2.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Now at 104.3 wins for the Dodgers, 98.7 for the Nats (not reflecting today's results).

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #554: September 12, 2017, 09:47:12 PM »
Cleveland close to another win.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #555: September 12, 2017, 09:54:31 PM »
Cleveland close to another win.

They got it. Number 20 :shock:

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #557: September 12, 2017, 10:44:14 PM »
Rhys Hoskins with two HRs tonight--16 in 32 games. I hope Tommy Joseph has not extended his apartment lease.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #558: September 13, 2017, 08:50:28 AM »
I thought about setting up a thread called "those cheating bastards" in honor of New England's favorite team - no, mean their other favorite team - but I figure the Apple Watch sign stealing is more of a one and done story not worthy of a thread.

Recall that the theory is that the Red Sox video guys picked up the Yankees signs, including their signal as which sign would be the real pitch call (e.g., the first sign the catcher puts down, the 3d, etc...), that an assistant trainer in the clubhouse would get the signal from the video guys, he would tell players in the clubhouse the hot sign, a player would relay that to the runner on second by some sort of coded chatter, and the player on second would then know the real pitch call and relay that to the hitter.

Alex Speier made an interesting attempt to figure out if you could show the Red Sox were helped by their sign stealing by looking at their numbers with runners on second (the scenario when signs can be stolen and relayed to a hitter) v. when runners are not.  At least at first glance, it looks like it may have helped some with laying off pitches for BBs.

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The Red Sox are hitting .259 with a .325 on-base percentage and .406 slugging mark when no runner is on second. With a runner on second, they are hitting .259 with a .360 OBP and .408 slugging mark. The team’s strikeout rate goes down slightly, from 19.3 to 18.9 percent, with a runner on second, with the walk rate jumping from 8.0 to 10.1 percent.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2017/09/12/almost-impossible-tell-from-stats-red-sox-benefitted-from-sign-stealing-but-tried/oNFCt2PeA5Yq8cvSWC6TdK/story.html?et_rid=1807634745&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletter

He goes through other teams that have spikes in hitting with runners on 2d.  The Os seem to do the best.

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The Orioles stand out as the team that has improved the most in such situations, with the biggest jump in batting average, OBP, and slugging percentage, the second-largest decline in strikeout rate, and the fifth-largest increase in walk rate in the AL.

that said, he points out there are other statistical anomalies that suggest there's no clear pattern and a lot of this could be hitter approach.

It's a fun read.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #559: September 13, 2017, 03:30:41 PM »
21 for Cleveland.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #560: September 13, 2017, 09:25:10 PM »
Rhys Hoskins with two HRs tonight--16 in 32 games. I hope Tommy Joseph has not extended his apartment lease.
Another HR for Hoskins. 17 and 37 RBIs in 33 games.


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #562: September 14, 2017, 10:34:10 AM »
Stay classy Boston.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20697346/fans-removed-fenway-park-seats-racism-american-baseball-sign


no arrests, just an ejection.  They let it stay up for a batter, so the point was made.  The Wall is on the field of play, so the banner had to be removed.  It'd be like letting someone jump out of the stands and just sort of hang by the bullpen on the warning track. This isn't like hanging Ks on the back wall behind the bleachers.   Relatively speaking, this was a pretty mild response.  I suppose they could have confiscated the banner and let them stay, but it would be a lousy precedent. Do you start enforcing a policy based on content?  Say what the management approves of you get to stay but what if they don't you get kicked out? 


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #563: September 14, 2017, 11:47:54 AM »
freaking idiots trying to get themselves some "street cred"

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #564: September 14, 2017, 02:24:03 PM »
I would guess that this is people that are against racism in baseball.

There have been racist incidents among the fans at Fenway Park. (Certainly not the only place, or the only sport.)

Stay classy Boston.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20697346/fans-removed-fenway-park-seats-racism-american-baseball-sign

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #565: September 14, 2017, 02:31:43 PM »
I would guess that this is people that are against racism in baseball.

The fact that there is debate about what their actual message was cracks me up :lol:
#protestfail

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« Reply #566: September 14, 2017, 02:36:44 PM »
#BallofConfusion
The fact that there is debate about what their actual message was cracks me up :lol:
#protestfail

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #567: September 14, 2017, 02:57:42 PM »
no arrests, just an ejection.  They let it stay up for a batter, so the point was made.  The Wall is on the field of play, so the banner had to be removed.  It'd be like letting someone jump out of the stands and just sort of hang by the bullpen on the warning track. This isn't like hanging Ks on the back wall behind the bleachers.   Relatively speaking, this was a pretty mild response.  I suppose they could have confiscated the banner and let them stay, but it would be a lousy precedent. Do you start enforcing a policy based on content?  Say what the management approves of you get to stay but what if they don't you get kicked out?

The Nats have very strict restrictions on size and message for all banners...

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #568: September 14, 2017, 03:15:24 PM »
The fact that there is debate about what their actual message was cracks me up :lol:
#protestfail

I was greatly amused as well, especially since it could be easily read to be three or four different things - Racism and baseball are American and therefore good; racism and baseball are American and therefore bad; or (a third possibility) despite being equally "American," one of the pair of racism and baseball is good and the other bad.  Apparently they are on the anti-racist side, but that was not at all the way I read it at first.  Still unknown how they feel about baseball.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #569: September 14, 2017, 04:20:17 PM »
The Nats have very strict restrictions on size and message for all banners...
How strict is the restriction on message? Like what if I show up with one that just says, "YAY BEER!"?

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« Reply #570: September 14, 2017, 04:30:31 PM »
Did anyone get in trouble for the huge Impeach Trump banner that went up after the last out on Opening Day?

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« Reply #571: September 14, 2017, 05:47:19 PM »
How strict is the restriction on message? Like what if I show up with one that just says, "YAY BEER!"?

No larger than 2'x4' and must be baseball related...which I guess the Fenway banner complied with the latter...

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #572: September 14, 2017, 05:57:54 PM »
I loved seeing the big "Short still stinks!" banner on closing day at RFK in '05. 

Two more DC United games and then RFK will no longer have any tenants other than the feral cat colony under the bleachers and the raccoons in the team store. 

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #573: September 14, 2017, 08:26:55 PM »
Another HR for Hoskins. 17 and 37 RBIs in 33 games.
#18 tonight.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2017)
« Reply #574: September 14, 2017, 10:34:01 PM »
Cleveland wins again on walk off in the 10th. 22 wins.