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« Reply #200: September 12, 2017, 09:28:51 PM »
Nice.  Wonder how she sounds these days?

I saw her 3 years ago...she opened for Journey.  Thought then that she should be headlining her own gigs...so we'll see how time has treated her...

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« Reply #201: September 12, 2017, 09:29:19 PM »
:hysterical:
Someone told me years ago that she was married and had moved to Manassas.  I always dreamed of running into her at KMart and breaking into Hit Me With Your Best Shot.

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« Reply #202: September 16, 2017, 04:01:07 PM »
We have front row seats for Pat Benatar at Charles Town Casino on Friday night.  Mrs. VaRK isn't usually into concerts...daughter #2 is my usual concert companion...but she made an exception for this one.

So...Pat and Spyder were terrific, with some qualifications, and we enjoyed meeting them as well.  I did have a number of observations:

The venue was in the Charles Town Casino and they have a very strict smoking policy.  I'm surprised they didn't see us not smoking and have us removed from the premises.  As reformed smokers, cigarette smoke really bothers us both.

There was no warm up act, and the entire show was just 1 hour and 20 minutes...the same as when she opens for another group.  Despite referencing the "Holy 14" songs that fans always want to hear, they did not play all 14.  Really disappointing, but still far better than the dreadful Springsteen concert.

Pat clearly is showing the effects of age, and can't be blamed for that at 64, but she is not hitting the notes the same way she did in her prime.  Not any worse, necessarily, but not the same as we remember.  Again...great job, but "different."

Spyder was pretty amazing...sounded just like Jimi on his Purple Haze riff and had enormous energy on stage.  I found out that he played with Rick Springfield 39 years ago. 

If you have not seen Pat and Neil and are a fan...it's well worth it.  Having seen them twice now...I think this is the last time.




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« Reply #203: September 16, 2017, 07:34:27 PM »
At first I thought you had seen the show with spydernat. :). Thanks for the review, I'd love to see her.

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« Reply #204: September 29, 2017, 11:54:42 PM »
Saw Jersey Boys on stage tonight...oh what a night!

A must see...fantastic show...

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« Reply #205: October 05, 2017, 09:55:20 PM »
2018 R&R HoF nominees announced:

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Bon Jovi
Kate Bush
The Cars
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
Eurythmics
J. Geils Band
Judas Priest
LL Cool J
MC5
The Meters
Moody Blues
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
Nina Simone
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Link Wray
The Zombies

Hopefully Dire Straits gets in as it would be fun to see them play together again.   There are still lots of acts who should be considered but haven't yet made the cut: Joe Cocker, Soundgarden, and so many of the big acts from the 70s and 80s (Styx, REO Speedwagon, Meat Loaf, Def Leppard to name a few).

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« Reply #206: October 06, 2017, 04:41:50 PM »
2018 R&R HoF nominees announced:

Hopefully Dire Straits gets in as it would be fun to see them play together again.   There are still lots of acts who should be considered but haven't yet made the cut: Joe Cocker, Soundgarden, and so many of the big acts from the 70s and 80s (Styx, REO Speedwagon, Meat Loaf, Def Leppard to name a few).

If The Zombies get elected, they need Dusty Hill to introduce them.

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« Reply #208: October 08, 2017, 10:21:37 AM »
that was chilling.

Lin-Manuel Miranda organized a group of latino singers to record a benefit song for Puerto Rico.  He re-worked a line from the song Maria from West Side Story, with Stephen Sondheim's permission, to form the opening line and the chorus.  He wanted to do something that turned Maria into a positive.  I'm not a huge fan of this kind of music, but this song is very well done.  He even included Rita Moreno in the song.


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« Reply #209: October 08, 2017, 03:17:30 PM »
2018 R&R HoF nominees announced:

Hopefully Dire Straits gets in as it would be fun to see them play together again.   There are still lots of acts who should be considered but haven't yet made the cut: Joe Cocker, Soundgarden, and so many of the big acts from the 70s and 80s (Styx, REO Speedwagon, Meat Loaf, Def Leppard to name a few).

I didn't realize Dire Straits were not in yet.  If they're going to put Green Day in, then DS damn well better get in.


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« Reply #210: October 08, 2017, 03:20:18 PM »
I didn't realize Dire Straits were not in yet.  If they're going to put Green Day in, then DS damn well better get in.

What kind of steak you cookin' tomorrow?    Agree with the DS leaning.    They're better than some of the acts already in the Hall.

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« Reply #211: October 08, 2017, 09:21:46 PM »
that was chilling.

Lin-Manuel Miranda organized a group of latino singers to record a benefit song for Puerto Rico.  He re-worked a line from the song Maria from West Side Story, with Stephen Sondheim's permission, to form the opening line and the chorus.  He wanted to do something that turned Maria into a positive.  I'm not a huge fan of this kind of music, but this song is very well done.  He even included Rita Moreno in the song.


he works through the names of the 78 (?) cities and towns in Puerto Rico.

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« Reply #212: October 08, 2017, 09:25:01 PM »
I didn't realize Dire Straits were not in yet.  If they're going to put Green Day in, then DS damn well better get in.


huge dire straits fan.  I don't know if you put in Mark Knopfler rather than the whole band.  That said, they had a 7 year prime with him, and just some wonderful compositions.  If the only thing you think of is "money for nothing" then you are missing what made the band great. 

by the way, that sounds like the Paradise, a club near BU.  1980 was its prime.  I wasn't a big club scene guy, but I saw a few shows there, the Rat (more of a punk venue), and a club or two on Landsdowne street.

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« Reply #213: October 08, 2017, 09:40:28 PM »
Making movies was pretty close to a perfect album.  Communique is fantastic.

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« Reply #214: October 08, 2017, 10:08:11 PM »
hell, the debut was fantastic too.  I almost think Brothers in Arms damaged their reputation.

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« Reply #215: October 08, 2017, 10:50:35 PM »
hell, the debut was fantastic too.  I almost think Brothers in Arms damaged their reputation.

I agree.  Way too many people only know of "Money for Nothing."

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« Reply #216: October 08, 2017, 11:14:14 PM »
I agree.  Way too many people only know of "Money for Nothing."
At the time, I thought Money for Nothing was a parody of the dumbing down of music and the image making of bands to have success on MTV.  The band was about to split apart, and their music was not MTV-friendly due to all of their best songs being much longer than 3 minutes.  I'm guessing that Knopfler found it ironic that that was the song folks latched onto and that Viacom adopted that song as its pitch for MTV.

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« Reply #217: October 08, 2017, 11:33:40 PM »
I agree.  Way too many people only know of "Money for Nothing."
At the time, I thought Money for Nothing was a parody of the dumbing down of music and the image making of bands to have success on MTV. 

I mean, that's what is was, right?  And for as much as I love Romeo and Juliet and Skateaway, Money for Nothing was a freaking excellent song, I mean that guitar hook?  Fire.  To me it's a testament to how great a song is that pretty much any person regardless of what type of music they love can hear that opening and know immediately what song it is and instantly remember how much they loved it.  Just because a song is mad popular doesn't mean it's not good. 

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« Reply #218: October 09, 2017, 05:42:27 AM »
My parents sent me more of my LPs from my formative years and it’s like heaven at my house. The entire Steely Dan catalog in pristine shape on first pressings along with Led Zeppelin III and House of Holy (the only two passable LZ albums) and the entire AC/DC and Thin Lizzie catalogs.

No to those frauds in RATM getting in. Kind of surprised Kate Bush isn’t in yet, same with the Cars. Bon Jovi should be in for his hangover and whores masterpiece “Bed of Roses”.

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« Reply #219: October 09, 2017, 05:45:21 AM »
I mean, that's what is was, right?  And for as much as I love Romeo and Juliet and Skateaway, Money for Nothing was a freaking excellent song, I mean that guitar hook?  Fire.  To me it's a testament to how great a song is that pretty much any person regardless of what type of music they love can hear that opening and know immediately what song it is and instantly remember how much they loved it.  Just because a song is mad popular doesn't mean it's not good. 

That album is beyond dated though and not just the production (which is awful). Between the “f-word” and that bizarre 200 reverb tank but still dry as the Sahara drum tone it’s hard to listen to that album now without cringing.

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« Reply #220: October 09, 2017, 06:25:38 AM »
As far as the hook on Money for Nothing, I might be wrong, but I think that is basically the only song where Knopfler more or less use fuzzy chord pounding rather than picking notes.  I'll defer to folks who know guitar more.

Last year, we had a long exchange about how the Cars should be in.  No sense repeating, but essentially extensive catalog and, for better or worse, first of the new wave.  It was a break from 70s metal / mellow soft rock / disco /  pop in style.

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« Reply #221: October 09, 2017, 07:43:43 AM »
Knopfler used a pick on that song, which is another reason it smokes anii. Part of the appeal of Dire Straits was the lack of plectrum use on the guitar. Listening to “Money for nothing” again makes me want to pour concrete through my ear canals. So much gated snare drum and triggers. Was their bass player in a coma when they recorded this album? 

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« Reply #222: October 09, 2017, 11:02:29 AM »
tbh, I probably listened to that album no more than 4 times through over 30 years.  Not one with a lot of go tos for me.  So far away, Walk of Life  (cute song overplayed), Why Worry, and not much else.  Still say that money for nothing works only as satire on the direction of the music industry.

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« Reply #223: October 09, 2017, 11:09:11 AM »
tbh, I probably listened to that album no more than 4 times through over 30 years.  Not one with a lot of go tos for me.  So far away, Walk of Life  (cute song overplayed), Why Worry, and not much else.  Still say that money for nothing works only as satire on the direction of the music industry.

That's what it is lol
and y'all are crazy, Money for Nothing is a great song  8)

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« Reply #224: October 09, 2017, 12:35:55 PM »
I went to the soft opening at Anthem last night. This is the new venue from the owners of the 9:30 Club and one of the anchors of the Wharf development. The official opening will be Thursday with the Foo Fighters show.  It's a *really* nice venue, imagine the shininess of the 9:30 when it was brand new but with all the modern touches and a whole lot bigger. I believe the official capacity is around 6000 (9:30 is around 1600 but I know for sure they've oversold more than once, who needs the fire marshall when it's a James Brown/Chuck Brown show?). 

There are three levels: the floor has a huge main section (they had seating set up on 3/4 of the floor last night but I don't think that will be their usual floor plan) with two raised tiers of about 15 rows of seats each in the back; then two balconies, each with multiple sections of tiered seating and also tiered standing room.  The design is really clever, like drink rails on pretty much any tier, balcony or banister. LOTS of bathrooms. There are just a ton of places to perch and watch a show, especially if you want  a good view and don't want to be on the floor (I'm old and cranky and don't like crowds any more ha ha). They have some weird low-glare LED lighting which looks great, illuminates the stage AND does not blind you, all at the same time (it's devil magic).

The sound system is really solid (wouldn't expect anything else from the 9:30 Club -- the sound system on V Street cost $3 million and that was 15 or 20 years ago when they first moved into that space) and since it was a brand new building, they were able to design the ceiling to keep the sound pure, rather than having to work around HVAC and all the other crap in the ceiling (Black Cat is awful for this). It's going to be very loud in there.

There's an elevator to the upper levels, something that was sadly lacking at the old club (those stairs were a nag if you were on crutches) and a really cool art installation in the atrium which is made out of cymbals.

Beer selection is decent, not as big as at the 9:30 but they still manage to sneak in some locals like Port City and DC Brau.  The food selection looks like it'll be pretty good but the kitchen was completely freaked last night, we didn't mess with that line.  I have no idea  if they will be selling mixed drinks; I only saw beer but I didn't really look for other stuff. Pacifico seems to be the "house" beer. $8 drafts which isn't all that terrible for a live music venue in DC.  There are at least 6 bars (I didn't do a good job counting but there's bars everywhere).

Important: it's going to be a completely cashless venue. Card/Apple Pay only.

I believe the stage is on casters like at the 9:30 which allows them to move the stage back to accommodate more people, or forward to make the venue feel more  crowded, depending on the act. Based on the general use of tiers and balconies, expect them to close the top tiers and back bits as well as moving the stage around, allowing smaller bands to play there too, and to me this says "pretty soon everything 9:30 will move to Anthem" because otherwise they are going to be competing with themselves for talent and crowds.

Challenges/issues: being a brand new space, they are still working out kinks. The line was LONG.  For the soft opening, they asked everyone to get there as close to 7:00 as possible. We arrived at 6:50 and and it took 45 minutes to get in once it started moving  :shock:. But, this was one of the things they wanted to test (and they gave you a free beer for being in line on time), so hopefully they got their data points and working on handling critical mass better.  If you're planning to see a show there any time soon, try not to get there right when doors open.

Parking is extremely limited at the Wharf and will only be a little better once the big garage opens (because all the other stuff will open too; adding capacity when you add demand is a wash). Nearest Metro is L'enfant Plaza, about 12 minutes walk, and there's nothing really along that walk (if you want to get rich, open a Jumbo Slice Pizza shop along that route and sell overpriced pizza to drunk people).  Right now there are no restaurants open in the immediate area but there are a bunch on their way including a Mike Isabella place. 

All in all-- it's a really good space, and I'm really happy for (and proud of) the 9:30 family. I spent more than my share of time at that lovable craphole on F Street, and a whole lot of time on V Street as well, and I'm excited to have a new venue to break in.