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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: The Weather (2017)
« Reply #525: September 09, 2017, 07:22:35 AM »
The warm waters fuel the hurricanes but I mean, we haven't had a major hurricane in over a decade and they say the waters get warmer every year, so why haven't we had one in so long? I get there are other factors but still, hurricanes to me have always seemed cyclical, one hits here every 10-15 years or so and then it's dormant for awhile, just seems to be the way it's gone for a long long time.

After reading everything I have about climate change I have come to the determination that we are likely not going to have to search for another planet to live on.  Even climate scientists can track the Earth's climate over the past billions of years and can show that there are drastic changes in the Earth's climate and the Earth will always provide a "hard reset" if necessary.

The only questions are: 

"What will that hard reset look like?"

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"Do you really want to be here to see it?"

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« Reply #526: September 09, 2017, 07:24:46 AM »
Half of them are in this century. Irma is stronger than all of them.

That makes sense since they've only been tracking Hurricanes for about 100 years.

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« Reply #527: September 09, 2017, 08:08:10 AM »
After reading everything I have about climate change I have come to the determination that we are likely not going to have to search for another planet to live on.  Even climate scientists can track the Earth's climate over the past billions of years and can show that there are drastic changes in the Earth's climate and the Earth will always provide a "hard reset" if necessary.

The only questions are: 

"What will that hard reset look like?"

and

"Do you really want to be here to see it?"

Earth will take care of the problem.

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Re: The Weather (2017)
« Reply #528: September 09, 2017, 09:08:14 AM »
Earth will take care of the problem.
just you might not want to be around to see how.

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« Reply #529: September 09, 2017, 09:17:20 AM »
just you might not want to be around to see how.

Reminds me of https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8695.The_Restaurant_at_the_End_of_the_Universe

I really should reread the series again

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« Reply #530: September 09, 2017, 09:31:58 AM »
Storm strength is just one aspect of the picture. Harvey was a rain and flood event that has never happened before. Sandy did record damage even though it was no longer a hurricane at that time. Bigger story is whether or not from global warming why do we allow more building in these areas?

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« Reply #531: September 09, 2017, 02:10:05 PM »
I don't think we are unbuilding New York.  One of the things that is happening and happened to NYC  and maybe Miami and Houston is not only is sea level rising but I think there is also some subsidence in these built up areas due to dewatering or other things that compact the soil.  That makes the storm surges more of a problem.

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« Reply #532: September 09, 2017, 02:19:15 PM »
Two primary drivers of the issue that I can tell - rising sea levels, and warmer waters that fuel more intense storms.

Obama administration put a set of regs in place that required properties rebuilt following storm destruction be built at least 1 foot higher than the 100 year flood mark, among other rules.  Trump killed that just a few weeks ago.  Sure glad our subsidized flood insurance proceeds are being spent wisely.

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« Reply #533: September 10, 2017, 09:16:15 AM »
Keep your head down skippy.

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« Reply #534: September 10, 2017, 09:23:19 AM »
This storm sucks.

Came close last Thursday to calling the insurance agent for our place at Myrtle Beach to decrease the hurricane deductible. Waited till Friday and saw the track change. Good luck to anyone in Florida. Looks like the winds will still be strong even when it reaches Atlanta. Bad karma from playing that song at the Barves game.

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« Reply #535: September 10, 2017, 11:56:59 AM »
The 11:00 update for Irma's track showed it had turned somewhat directly to the north. Looks like a direct track towards the area of Fort Myers where our relatives live. They won't be going anywhere any time soon because the one road that leads in and out of their neighborhood (Briarcliff Road) will surely flood. It floods during ordinary thunderstorms.

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« Reply #536: September 10, 2017, 02:36:24 PM »
Keep your head down skippy.

All's good here, just have to get my daughter and fam in Orlando through it :pray:

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« Reply #537: September 10, 2017, 03:19:29 PM »
All's good here, just have to get my daughter and fam in Orlando through it :pray:

That's where my Brother-in-Law is...out by UCF...

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« Reply #538: September 10, 2017, 03:23:42 PM »
I have an old high school friend who has retired to Ft Myer.  He said they are moving to a friend's house along with an elderly WWII vet neighbor since the house has a second story and they expect the lower levels to be flooded.

I really don't understand the logic behind staying.  Is your own life worth so little?  Is it really necessary to place an increased burden on first responders?

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« Reply #539: September 10, 2017, 03:25:15 PM »
That's where my Brother-in-Law is...out by UCF...

I think they're fine, no danger of storm surge or flooding and the wind I don't think will be majorly destructive, it's the stupid tornadoes that spawn from it that make me nervous :(

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« Reply #540: September 10, 2017, 03:27:30 PM »
I have an old high school friend who has retired to Ft Myer.  He said they are moving to a friend's house along with an elderly WWII vet neighbor since the house has a second story and they expect the lower levels to be flooded.

I really don't understand the logic behind staying.  Is your own life worth so little?  Is it really necessary to place an increased burden on first responders?

If you're on the coast absolutely get out. We stayed for Ivan and Dennis, both Cat 3's, we're about three miles from the bay and we were fine, I've a feeling a lot of people who evacuated would've been ok to stay in their own house.

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« Reply #541: September 10, 2017, 04:27:08 PM »
Amazing live footage on CNN and MSNBC from Naples.

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« Reply #543: September 10, 2017, 06:01:39 PM »
Big surge heading into Naples now

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« Reply #544: September 10, 2017, 06:06:39 PM »
Big surge heading into Naples now

Kind of cool how the wind first will blow water away from the western coast, then blow it back in.  Would be amazing to see that progression.

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« Reply #545: September 10, 2017, 06:50:59 PM »
Don't look now but....Jose is heading for FL. 

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« Reply #546: September 10, 2017, 07:07:11 PM »
Kind of cool how the wind first will blow water away from the western coast, then blow it back in.  Would be amazing to see that progression.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Hurricane-Irma-Sucks-Water-Away-From-Bahamas-Island-Shore-443495553.html

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Re: The Weather (2017)
« Reply #547: September 10, 2017, 07:23:26 PM »
Kind of cool how the wind first will blow water away from the western coast, then blow it back in.  Would be amazing to see that progression.
Not sure cool is the word I'd use, but it is fascinating, for sure.

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« Reply #548: September 10, 2017, 09:34:43 PM »
Not sure cool is the word I'd use, but it is fascinating, for sure.

I'm a low tide guy.  I want the mystery revealed - what exactly IS down there submerged most of the time?  An exceptionally low tide can be very revealing - shipwrecks, bodies, old fishing gear, rings, old house foundations, it all can be seen.   

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« Reply #549: September 10, 2017, 09:35:27 PM »