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Offline BrandonK

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #25: November 30, 2016, 09:38:21 PM »
Without free agent compensation it looks like the players walk out with a better deal- did they give on anything?

No Int'l draft or draft pick comps AND luxury tax going up -- sounds like the MLBPA totally won

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« Reply #26: November 30, 2016, 09:40:23 PM »
Without free agent compensation it looks like the players walk out with a better deal- did they give on anything?
Well. They didn't get a roster of 26 players.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #27: November 30, 2016, 09:53:51 PM »
New FA rules go into effect in 2017-18 per Morosi. 

Offline dcpatti

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #28: December 01, 2016, 08:33:17 AM »
All Star Game no longer to determine the home field advantage for the World Series. Now it will be based on win/loss record.

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« Reply #29: December 01, 2016, 08:45:37 AM »
All Star Game no longer to determine the home field advantage for the World Series. Now it will be based on win/loss record.
That's better but not necessarily equitable either. They should just alternate.

Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #30: December 01, 2016, 09:37:55 AM »
That's better but not necessarily equitable either. They should just alternate.
There's never a totally equitable option. Best record is the best option.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #31: December 01, 2016, 10:17:37 AM »
Well. They didn't get a roster of 26 players.

Better deal for vets and FAs though. Fringe guys/young and cheap guys would've been fighting for that spot.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #32: December 01, 2016, 10:37:34 AM »
Personally not a fan of the new cap on intl signings. A draft would've been better for those kids than this.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #33: December 01, 2016, 11:05:57 AM »
Personally not a fan of the new cap on intl signings. A draft would've been better for those kids than this.
How? They get to pick what team they go to and are likely to get more money than if they were drafted.

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« Reply #34: December 01, 2016, 11:11:06 AM »
Personally not a fan of the new cap on intl signings. A draft would've been better for those kids than this.

 It could be the DR told MLB they wouldn't allow a draft.

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« Reply #35: December 01, 2016, 11:11:52 AM »
How? They get to pick what team they go to and are likely to get more money than if they were drafted.

It's a hard cap (from what I've read). Teams still like to cast a wide net, so that either means less money per player or else guys signed. Bad deal.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #36: December 01, 2016, 12:09:30 PM »
There's never a totally equitable option. Best record is the best option.

I've always found it odd that the general tendency in sports is to give more theoretical advantages to the team that already has the theoretical advantage.

Offline DPMOmaha

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« Reply #37: December 01, 2016, 12:14:00 PM »
I've always found it odd that the general tendency in sports is to give more theoretical advantages to the team that already has the theoretical advantage.
I guess i look at it like that team earned that theoretical advantage.

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« Reply #38: December 01, 2016, 12:34:56 PM »
I guess i look at it like that team earned that theoretical advantage.

Sure, it's more "fair", but I think most people would agree with the sentiment "I just want to see a good game/series," so I find it amusing that sports organizations typically work against their own best interests in such cases.

(extremely theoretical, obviously - I don't actually believe that HFA is that big of a deal)

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #39: December 01, 2016, 04:06:50 PM »
the new CBA reclassifies the A's as a major market team. That ends a payment to the team that amounted to about $34 million last year.  The argument is that they will now finally be forced to find a new stadium or relocate.

Offline BrandonK

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #40: December 01, 2016, 05:31:29 PM »
Teams can trade their international signing pool still. Teams can add up to 75% of their bonus pool. Even then, $9M isn't much. The amateur age is also increasing to 25. Bad deal for the players.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #41: December 01, 2016, 05:34:38 PM »
Union members sold non members out, im shocked

Offline BrandonK

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #42: December 01, 2016, 05:44:42 PM »
Union members sold non members out, im shocked

I know.

Still, it's bad for the game. Hope there's at least a way to sign players to smaller, say > $100K, deals, while remaining outside of the pool. The bigger name guys are still gonna get theirs, but the Renny Lopez-type signings will diminish with a hard cap. An intl draft could've followed a structure similar to the current Rule 4 draft, where rounds 11 onwards aren't accounted for in the bonus pool.

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Re: New CBA!
« Reply #43: December 01, 2016, 10:15:12 PM »
They agreed to ban use of smokeless tobacco for future major leaguers. That should be interesting to enforce.