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Offline zimm_da_kid

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http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=int

looks like the best class recently.  Maitain at the top gets miggy and chipper comps. 
Has us as the favorites for the #7, #14, & #19 (All shortstops).

I want a pitcher too.  If we're going all -in, which it looks like, then I'd rather go all-in and get the key undeclared guys out there like lazarito and Arozarena.

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Nice thread, ZDK. Haven't heard anything. Makes me miss Kiley McDaniel, that's for sure. He did great stuff for FG

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http://www.talkingchop.com/2016/2/10/10952018/kevin-maitan-atlanta-braves
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However, thats not to say that its a given that the Braves will get Maitan despite being considered heavy favorites by many. Our friends over at Tomahawk Take had a very interesting take on Maitan's market and how the Cardinals have not given up on signing him. In addition, the Padres and Nationals are also going to be teams that blow through their bonus pools as well and will certainly give the Braves some competition in signing players with Maitan likely to be no exception. The Braves' interest in Cuban prospect Lazaro Armenteros did lead to some speculation that the Braves were hedging their bets a bit in regards to Maitan, but it rumor has it that Lazarito is likely to reach an informal agreement with a club and sign after July 2. While there has no confirmation that that team is the Braves, this writer finds it unlikely that these rumors coming immediately after the Braves had a private showcase with Lazarito is merely coincidence. Its also true that Maitan will be attending a big showcase of international talent in the Domincan Republic this week which could give other big league teams a better look at him and/or give them a chance to try and pry him away from the Braves.

I hope they scared

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Doesn't Maitan already have a handshake deal with the Barves?

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Doesn't Maitan already have a handshake deal with the Barves?

Exactly.  They're all handshake deals.  Maitan's going to a top showcase for international prospects soon.  Why would he paint himself into a corner when he's hyped as the best international prospect at least since Miguel Sano?

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Anyone have a BA sub? Badler re: saying the Nats were still going to be active this period. Here's the article: http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/july-2-international-signing-period-preview/#xXflM6ZGhHg5gCxD.97


Offline BrandonK

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The older Gurriel declared a FA. Nothing on the brother. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/183790046/cuban-yulieski-gurriel-is-an-mlb-free-agent

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What was the final signing for the 2015 period? Closes tomorrow. Man, I miss Kiley's insight. Badler's great, but paywalls aren't

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FanGraphs posted a leaderboard of international picks with the teams rumored to be signing them. Nationals expected to go over budget; Padres expected to go insane.

Quick word from FG's Eric Longenhagen about our strategy here: "Teams outspend their pools because they think they can acquire more talent by breaking the rules in one year than they can by following them for three."

http://www.fangraphs.com/scoutboard.aspx?draft=2016int&type=0&pos=all

They have us pursuing Dominican SS Luis Garcia, 16, just like MLB did in ZDK's first post. Summary from that link:

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Scouts have praised Garcia's athleticism and they like his projectable body. In the batter's box, Garcia has gained a reputation for making good contact, especially in the inner half of the plate. Like most prospects his age, Garcia still needs to improve on his hitting mechanics and approach at the plate. He's expected to be able to drive the ball to all fields once he improves on the minor flaws in his batting technique.

On defense, Garcia has shown decent footwork and good hands. He has the range to make the routine plays and his overall skill set on defense is expected to improve once he is placed into an academy and receives more instruction. He has also shown a strong arm.

Garcia has displayed the ability to use his skill set in games. The Venezuelan teen racked up five hits and scored four runs in three games during Major League Baseball's International Showcase in February. He also walked twice.

Garcia is trained by his father, Luis Garcia Sr., and is expected to sign with the Nationals.

FG also has us pursuing Venezuelan OFs Ricardo Mendez and Victor Garcia, the latter of whom was projected by MLB as going to the Cards:

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There are two words that come to mind when scouts discuss Garcia: raw power.

Garcia might have the most raw power in the entire international prospect class of 2016 and that's saying something. He also projects to hit for average when he fully develops.

The teenage outfielder has been known to put on a show during batting practice and hit balls out of the ballpark to all fields. Overall, he projects to be a run-producing, middle-of-the-lineup type of player, but like most international prospects his age, Garcia is working on his discipline at the plate and pitch recognition. He still needs plenty of at-bats and will benefit greatly from daily instruction inside a team's academy when he signs.

He's shown an average arm and decent range on defense, but his bat remains his prominent tool. Garcia is trained by Francisco Ortiz in Venezuela. The Cardinals have emerged as the frontrunner to sign the young slugger.

We're also pursuing SS's Yasel Antuna... (quote again from MLB.com - link in ZDK's post)

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Is Antuna the top shortstop from the Dominican Republic in this year's class?

Let the debate begin.

Here's what we know: Antuna has the potential to be a five-tool player and has very polished actions on offense and defense for his age.

On defense, he has soft hands and good body control. He has a strong arm that continues to improve. He might not wow scouts with explosive actions on defense but he has good range and many project him as an everyday shortstop in the big leagues one day.

Antuna has slight upstroke on his swing from both sides of the plate and hits the ball hard from each side of the batter's box. It's clear Antuna has idea of what he wants to do when he steps to the plate. The shortstop has shown gap-to-gap power and that part of his game is expected to improve as he matures. Scouts rave about his overall hitting potential.

The Nationals are the favorite to sign the teenager. He trains in the Dominican Republic with Jaime Ramos.

...and Jose Sanchez...

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Add Sanchez to growing list of talented shortstops from Venezuela. The country has been churning out productive middle infielders for decades and Sanchez is putting himself in a position to be among the next group to excel.

Scouts like Sanchez's lean and athletic body. They also like the fact that it is just starting to fill out and he will be much stronger in the future.

But for now, Sanchez's tools on defense are evident. He has good hands and fluid defensive actions. He plays with confidence and makes the plays look easy. He has shown good footwork at an early age and that part of his game will improve as he develops and receives daily instruction in a team's academy.

On offense, Sanchez has a chance to hit for average and show more power as his body matures. He also shows good instincts on the bases. He profiles as an everyday regular shortstop.

...while MLB's pick to be another Nats recruit, Yunior Severino, is listed by FanGraphs as now leaning toward signing with the Braves.

Over the next week or so, FanGraphs will be publishing scouting reports on several of these players, so stay tuned, or perhaps stay Antuna'd.

Offline BrandonK

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I'm glad FG is doing int'l stuff again. Kiley is surely missed! Might have to sign up for BA just to get a beat on what's going on.

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I'm glad FG is doing int'l stuff again. Kiley is surely missed! Might have to sign up for BA just to get a beat on what's going on.

Kiley might be back somewhere soon. I have a buddy who works for the Braves who didn't exactly give a glowing report of how Kiley was working out there.

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FanGraphs posted a leaderboard of international picks with the teams rumored to be signing them. Nationals expected to go over budget; Padres expected to go insane.

Quick word from FG's Eric Longenhagen about our strategy here: "Teams outspend their pools because they think they can acquire more talent by breaking the rules in one year than they can by following them for three."

Which makes a ton of sense. Not only can you sign a high-end talent, but there's not the $300K restriction, so you can sign a guys a la the Elvis signing last year.

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Kiley might be back somewhere soon. I have a buddy who works for the Braves who didn't exactly give a glowing report of how Kiley was working out there.

Really? That's... interesting. I'm not sure what is role was with the Barves, but he seemed to have a great eye for scouting.

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Here's an interesting note on OF Kevin Richards:

"Richards is sushi raw — so raw, in fact, that upon learning just how uncooked he was, the Nationals withdrew a multi-million dollar offer to Richards and he’s now expected to sign with Oakland for about $500,000. Richards is a physically projectable 70 runner and could be an impact defender in center field. He’s frail right now but has decent bat control for his size and should generate stronger contact as his body matures. He looks bad in games and one scout with whom I spoke thought he might be afraid of the baseball because of how frequently and early he bails out of his swing. There is a lot of work to be done on the body, bat and maybe even the mind, but Richards is a dynamic athlete with big-time upside."
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/july-2-scouting-reports-prospects-11-25/

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Just subscribed to BA for this month because the Nats are expected to be so active with their J2 signings for the first time. Hit me up if you want info on a player.

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Just subscribed to BA for this month because the Nats are expected to be so active with their J2 signings for the first time. Hit me up if you want info on a player.

Very nice!

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BTW, JCA's (:lol:) Red Sox have been banned from this signing period, as well as 2015-16 signees. They are now FAs, and the first 300K of their new signing bonuses will not count against the pool. This is crazy. OT, but the Cards have still had nothing done for the hacking scandal.

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BTW, JCA's (:lol:) Red Sox have been banned from this signing period, as well as 2015-16 signees. They are now FAs, and the first 300K of their new signing bonuses will not count against the pool. This is crazy. OT, but the Cards have still had nothing done for the hacking scandal.
well, at least they got Moancada out of their overspending.  They did waste money on Castillo, but they got a few other guys when they splurged.  The rules seem to favor going massively overlimit in one year and then sitting out a year or two.

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well, at least they got Moancada out of their overspending.  They did waste money on Castillo, but they got a few other guys when they splurged.  The rules seem to favor going massively overlimit in one year and then sitting out a year or two.

I've never heard of a team losing it's signees and allowing them to be FAs again.

Yes, they do. That's what the Nats (hopefully) are doing this period. The int'l draft is right around the corner. It's a smart thing to do.

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Antuna is officially a Nat.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Antuna is officially a Nat.

$3.9 million. Damn

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Here's a team by team breakdown: http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/team-team-international-signing-tracker/#WrDmiZSi35z8gZ80.97

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Washington Nationals
Luis Garcia, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 3 prospect)
Yasel Antuna, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 14 prospect), $3.9 million.
Ricardo Mendez, of, Venezuela (No. 30 prospect)
Israel Pineda, c, Venezuela
Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/team-team-international-signing-tracker/#EQaL2e7RmwoKZTIB.99

Anyone know why Antuna(#14) prospect seems to have gotten a bigger signing bonus than Luis Garcia(#3) and just 100K under the #2 prospect(Luis Almanzar, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 2 prospect), $4 million)

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The Nats liked him, I guess.

Lazarito went to the A's. Thought the Nats were interested, but not at that price

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That's it?