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Offline houston-nat

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MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Topic Start: January 12, 2016, 11:38:10 AM »
The Cardinals just signed a Korean relief pitcher with the new best nickname in the MLB: "Final Boss".


Continued from 2015 Thread: http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=32370.0

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #1: January 13, 2016, 03:17:39 AM »
Chen signed with the Marlins.


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #4: February 05, 2016, 08:37:14 PM »
Anyone else surprised Rodney is still playing?

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #5: February 05, 2016, 09:08:28 PM »
Anyone else surprised Rodney is still playing?

Where did he land?

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #6: February 05, 2016, 09:11:52 PM »
Where did he land?

Padres - $2 million 1 year deal

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #7: February 05, 2016, 09:14:56 PM »
Anyone else surprised Rodney is still playing?
Not really. He improved a lot when the Cubs got him last season.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #8: February 05, 2016, 11:21:54 PM »
Not really. He improved a lot when the Cubs got him last season.

he's finally getting some respect.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #9: March 01, 2016, 01:10:16 PM »
Cespedes arrived today on a horse:


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #10: March 01, 2016, 01:11:31 PM »
I really wish we had won the bidding

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #11: March 01, 2016, 01:13:24 PM »
Only 1 HP. What a joker

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #12: March 01, 2016, 01:50:11 PM »
Waiting for him to show up on a Trek Emonda SLR10.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #13: March 01, 2016, 03:54:05 PM »
Chapman suspended 30 games, loses $1.7 million.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #14: March 01, 2016, 04:27:58 PM »
Chapman suspended 30 games, loses $1.7 million.

Reyes should expect something similar then. Maybe 50 games

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #15: March 01, 2016, 07:27:46 PM »
Chapman suspended 30 games, loses $1.7 million.

Not that this is the most important thing, but curious: How many games would get the Yankees an extra year of control?

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #16: March 02, 2016, 08:34:12 AM »
Aroldis Chapman has 5 years and 34 days service time per Cot's.  A 30 games suspension is probably < 35 days.   That leaves something like 145 days in the season.  He'll have the 6th year of service time with about a week to spare (179 days; all he needs is 172 for credit for a year).  I don't see the Yanks playing games to get him below the 172 days service time credit for the 6th year because, even if he could be given an optional assignment to get ready for the season, they need to keep him down for an additional 20 days in order to deprive him of MLB service time credit as I understand the rules.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #17: March 02, 2016, 08:54:52 AM »
Aroldis Chapman has 5 years and 34 days service time per Cot's.  A 30 games suspension is probably < 35 days.   That leaves something like 145 days in the season.  He'll have the 6th year of service time with about a week to spare (179 days; all he needs is 172 for credit for a year).  I don't see the Yanks playing games to get him below the 172 days service time credit for the 6th year because, even if he could be given an optional assignment to get ready for the season, they need to keep him down for an additional 20 days in order to deprive him of MLB service time credit as I understand the rules.

If they tried it, what are the odds he grooves a pitch or two if the yankees happen to be in a playoff race or has an undefined injury around the trade deadline if they're out of it? Maybe players aren't that vindictive

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #18: March 02, 2016, 09:09:20 AM »
Aroldis Chapman has 5 years and 34 days service time per Cot's.  A 30 games suspension is probably < 35 days.   That leaves something like 145 days in the season.  He'll have the 6th year of service time with about a week to spare (179 days; all he needs is 172 for credit for a year).  I don't see the Yanks playing games to get him below the 172 days service time credit for the 6th year because, even if he could be given an optional assignment to get ready for the season, they need to keep him down for an additional 20 days in order to deprive him of MLB service time credit as I understand the rules.

Pretty obvious grievance if the Yankees try to option the best closer in baseball, since any minors prep time is included as major league service time. I wonder if Manfred took service time into account? I doubt he wanted to reward the Yankees for dumpster-diving on a domestic abuser.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #19: March 02, 2016, 09:32:34 AM »
Pretty obvious grievance if the Yankees try to option the best closer in baseball, since any minors prep time is included as major league service time. I wonder if Manfred took service time into account? I doubt he wanted to reward the Yankees for dumpster-diving on a domestic abuser.

The article I read yesterday said that's why it was only 30 games, instead of 45 -- so, no, the Yankees aren't rewarded for trading for him with an extra year. If they did something like keep him in in extended ST after the suspension for ~20 days, I think the MLBPA would be up in arms (Manfred as well).

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #20: March 02, 2016, 02:04:37 PM »
Sounds like it was negotiated beforehand. MLB wanted a suspension that would go down as an unchallenged baseline to use in any future appeals, and Chapman and the MLBPA wanted a suspension that was short enough that Chapman still hits free agency.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #21: March 02, 2016, 02:18:25 PM »
that sounds logical. It's a bad enough suspension to hurt Chapman, but not cost him a year. MLB looks tough, MLBPA doesn't have to push the issue on appeal and get bad pr. On the the flip side, MLB doesn't risk looking ridiculous if an arbitrator over turns a decision on appeal and Chapman doesn't risk losing a season. Seems like a rare win win

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #22: March 02, 2016, 02:42:05 PM »
Seems like a rare win win

I'm hopeful we'll have more win-win situations under Rob Manfred than under Bud Selig. Bud was a used car salesman in his previous life and continued as a used car salesman as MLB commissioner - someone came out of every transaction screwed and with a bad taste in his mouth.


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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #23: March 02, 2016, 02:55:06 PM »
I'm hopeful we'll have more win-win situations under Rob Manfred than under Bud Selig. Bud was a used car salesman in his previous life and continued as a used car salesman as MLB commissioner - someone came out of every transaction screwed and with a bad taste in his mouth.



Maybe it's just because he's not Selig, but I like Manfred

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2016)
« Reply #24: March 02, 2016, 03:16:05 PM »
Maybe it's just because he's not Selig, but I like Manfred

Right, I mean this shows a level of foresight and appreciation for ramifications that Selig never showed. Selig's actions were always used car transactions - "let's get this car off the lot and who cares if it breaks down after the first 500 miles".

The MASN deal was just a classic - instead of sitting down like an adult and coming up with a dollar figure to appease Peter Angelos once and for all for the loss of "his" region, he builds the subsidy into the television rights into perpetuity, guaranteeing an everlasting tensions between the two clubs. Then he either unknowingly or without caring allows the "fair rights" clause to be built in so the two clubs will almost certainly end up in litigation. Then he ignores it for like 5 years. A Selig tour de force.