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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #75: May 05, 2017, 05:48:37 PM »
We agree on that. But the right return for me is almost never going to be a RP for a top-50 position player prospect. It would have to be like 3 years of Andrew Miller on some kind of team-friendly contract.
I think we agree on that, too. I'm probs not trading him for Lorenzo Cain or a reliever rental. But for this year, that list of players is probably pretty short.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #76: May 05, 2017, 05:51:31 PM »
That said, if a GM feels they're getting back the last piece of the puzzle, I understand that reasoning, even if it's more than I'd pay for that sort of move.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #77: May 05, 2017, 06:11:58 PM »
i'd rather move robles than Soto.  I see Soto as a slightly less athletic Oscar Taveras (RIP) with similar bat to ball skills, more power, and a bit less athleticism.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #78: May 05, 2017, 06:35:15 PM »
i'd rather move robles than Soto. 

Hottest of #hottakes. How quickly consensus 5-tool, top-10 prospects can fall in our hearts and minds...


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #79: May 05, 2017, 09:19:48 PM »
Hottest of #hottakes. How quickly consensus 5-tool, top-10 prospects can fall in our hearts and minds...


he hasn't fallen in my view.  I love him as a prospect.  I just think he's better served as a blue-chip trade asset for an outfielder either at this deadline or in the offseason when Werth leaves.  Sotot has not reached peak value yet.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #80: May 06, 2017, 08:55:58 AM »
i'd rather move robles than Soto.  I see Soto as a slightly less athletic Oscar Taveras (RIP) with similar bat to ball skills, more power, and a bit less athleticism.

Have you ever actually seen either of them play in person?

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #81: May 06, 2017, 01:30:58 PM »
Have you ever actually seen either of them play in person?

No but I've read far more on this then you have.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #82: May 06, 2017, 01:39:08 PM »
No but I've read far more on this then you have.

Than he has...  ;)

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #83: May 06, 2017, 09:10:47 PM »
No but I've read far more on this then you have.

Uh, okay.  That's probably an incorrect assumption, but I'll let you enjoy it.  And if you actually attended minor league baseball games, you would probably learn a lot that you don't learn from reading the reports of other people who also don't attend the games. So go on enjoying trying to experience baseball from behind a computer screen.  That seems to be an approach that singularly sucks the joy out of the entire enterprise, but I hope it gets you all jolly and warm.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #84: May 06, 2017, 09:17:10 PM »
you seem to think you're better than me for some reason.  this whole post is extremely condescending.

Offline Elvir Ovcina

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #85: May 06, 2017, 09:54:20 PM »
you seem to think you're better than me for some reason.  this whole post is extremely condescending.

I don't.  I also think going to the games has some value.  I further think that if you expect to be taken seriously, you should stop posting insane fake trades.  My problem with people who write about minor league prospects they've never actually seen and the grain of salt that has to be taken with their opinions is a problem with them for exaggerating their own authority, not you.

Also, it's a little rich to say "No, but I've read far more on this then (sic) you have" and then complain about someone else sounding condescending.  Glass houses, bud.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #86: May 08, 2017, 01:45:04 PM »
Soto to the DL with ankle injury, possible fracture.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #87: May 08, 2017, 01:56:34 PM »
Soto to the DL with ankle injury, possible fracture.

ugh.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #88: May 11, 2017, 03:43:17 PM »
Soto's up to #59 on baseball america's updated rankings.  The Rise is real!

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #89: May 11, 2017, 07:57:21 PM »
Soto's up to #59 on baseball america's updated rankings.  The Rise is real!
Last guy we had to move up that fast was Giolito.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #90: May 11, 2017, 08:26:52 PM »
Last guy we had to move up that fast was Giolito.

he only started that low due to TJ recovery.  different situation.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #91: May 11, 2017, 08:51:08 PM »
he only started that low due to TJ recovery.  different situation.
Just sayin. Things don't always pan out.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #92: May 12, 2017, 08:43:58 AM »
Just sayin. Things don't always pan out.

They don't, but Robles is the better comp here, really, and recent - international prospect outfielder who excelled at Hagerstown at an unusually young age after tearing up the GCL and NYP the year prior. Too early to tell how he turns out of course.  Soto's numbers right now are better at a younger age, but he also doesn't have the defensive upside that Robles does - Robles plays CF and has the athletic skills necessary to eventually do so very well.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #93: May 12, 2017, 10:14:19 AM »
What is the latest on the Soto ankle injury? I apologize if I missed something.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #94: June 16, 2017, 03:50:30 PM »
What is the latest on the Soto ankle injury? I apologize if I missed something.

Nothing really new.  This is from the Washington Post on June 5:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2017/06/05/minor-league-monday-checking-in-with-clint-robinson-erick-fedde-and-others/?utm_term=.bfe9393b5f0e

 "Right fielder Juan Soto and infielder Carter Kieboom, two of the organization’s top four prospects, remain on the disabled list. The 18-year-old Soto hasn’t played since injuring his right ankle on a play at the plate on May 2. He was batting .360 with a .950 OPS in 96 plate appearances before the injury. The 19-year-old Kieboom, injured his hamstring on May 12. He was slashing .333/.398/.586 at the time."


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #96: July 06, 2017, 11:41:09 AM »
Soto is also back in action, going 1-9 in 3 games in the GCL.


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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #98: July 06, 2017, 04:02:05 PM »
Good. Need his trade value to increase.

No, he's our Harper replacement in RF in two years. Think of the money the Lerners will save.

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Re: Follow the Prospects: Juan Soto, OF
« Reply #99: July 07, 2017, 08:22:44 PM »
No, he's our Harper replacement in RF in two years. Think of the money the Lerners will save.

No, he's our setup man for the World Series