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Offline joemktg

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #75: June 06, 2016, 08:23:53 PM »
Is he profiling to stay at 3B or nah?
He's seen at 3B.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #76: June 06, 2016, 09:37:58 PM »
Nats are in the midst of laying out the 850-1000 member draft board. Some are finished, e.g., Cleveland.

When you get down to, say, player number #350, does the specific order really mean anything or are they hoping to grab any guy in a range of 30+ guys with a pick? Like if player #471 and player #472 are still on the board, is the order decisive?

Offline joemktg

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #77: June 07, 2016, 08:40:53 AM »
When you get down to, say, player number #350, does the specific order really mean anything or are they hoping to grab any guy in a range of 30+ guys with a pick? Like if player #471 and player #472 are still on the board, is the order decisive?
Some clubs will use it as a map: whoever is next is selected. Others will use it as a tool to go along with gut, debate, etc.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #78: June 07, 2016, 10:53:12 AM »
FYI: Jim Callis (Oakton HS grad) took another crack at the 2011 draft. See it here: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/182532366/fernandez-a-pirate-redrafting-the-2011-picks

1) Nats did well in their selection!
2) Overall, it's still a guessing game. Eventually predictive analytics combined with genome mapping will be successfully applied to the crapshoot known as the draft, but until then, it's fodder for banter.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #79: June 07, 2016, 12:48:24 PM »
Some clubs will use it as a map: whoever is next is selected. Others will use it as a tool to go along with gut, debate, etc.

When it gets to that point...I would guess they are looking at best player available less than best player available at certain positions.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #80: June 07, 2016, 05:53:33 PM »
Wonder how far he'll fall.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 5m5 minutes ago

heres the explanation why elite ss prospect delvin perez is dropping in possible drafts: he failed a drug test, sources say

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #81: June 07, 2016, 07:00:21 PM »
Wonder how far he'll fall.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 5m5 minutes ago

heres the explanation why elite ss prospect delvin perez is dropping in possible drafts: he failed a drug test, sources say


if its a recreational drug, take him. 

Offline houston-nat

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #82: June 07, 2016, 07:15:15 PM »
if its a recreational drug, take him. 
This reminds me, are there any theories on why Jon Singleton was a bust?

Offline Mr Clean

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #83: June 07, 2016, 08:45:01 PM »
Predictions for #28 and #29 anyone?

Offline whytev

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #84: June 07, 2016, 08:46:18 PM »
Wonder how far he'll fall.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 5m5 minutes ago

heres the explanation why elite ss prospect delvin perez is dropping in possible drafts: he failed a drug test, sources say

PED or THC?

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #85: June 07, 2016, 09:34:57 PM »

Offline BrandonK

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #86: June 07, 2016, 11:01:32 PM »
Delvin + Kieboom... Damn

Offline Mr Clean

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #87: June 07, 2016, 11:06:14 PM »
Delvin + Kieboom... Damn
Who is Delvin?

Offline BrandonK

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #88: June 07, 2016, 11:08:22 PM »
Who is Delvin?

Delvin Perez. I doubt he falls, even with the failed test (unless it really is PEDs). He's a great prospect. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/161884298/delvin-perez-an-elite-puerto-rican-ss-prospect

Offline whytev

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #89: June 08, 2016, 12:51:04 AM »
Delvin Perez. I doubt he falls, even with the failed test (unless it really is PEDs). He's a great prospect. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/161884298/delvin-perez-an-elite-puerto-rican-ss-prospect

MLB Trade Rumors says "undisclosed performance enhancer."  So, not weed.

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« Reply #90: June 08, 2016, 09:09:46 AM »
MLB Trade Rumors says "undisclosed performance enhancer."  So, not weed.

Yeah, just saw that update. I wonder if the MLB has a similar drug policy as the NFL, where a player enters the drug policy from the get-go?

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11:08pm: Perez tested positive for “an undisclosed performance enhancer,” according to John Manuel and J.J. Cooper of Baseball America. Cooper and Manuel cite conversations with “multiple decision makers” in adding that there’s an expectation that he’ll still go in the first round to a team that gets approval from ownership, as his talent will be deemed too enticing to pass up.

Cooper and Manuel also report that University of Kentucky infielder JaVon Shelby tested positive for Adderall, which is considered a performance enhancer despite its common usage as a treatment for ADHD. Shelby isn’t as highly regarded as Perez, though he did rate 260th in BA’s compilation of the top 500 prospects in this year’s draft class.

Offline joemktg

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #91: June 08, 2016, 09:21:31 AM »
At the bottom of the BA article: "In the past, righthanders Jon Gray and Aaron Blair tested positive for Adderall before the 2013 draft. Phil Bickford tested positive for marijuana before the 2015 draft. In those three cases, the positive tests did not appear to significantly affect their draft stock. Because the tests are administered before the draft when the players are not professionals, they have not carried any post-signing penalties for the players."

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #92: June 08, 2016, 09:25:26 AM »
At the bottom of the BA article: "In the past, righthanders Jon Gray and Aaron Blair tested positive for Adderall before the 2013 draft. Phil Bickford tested positive for marijuana before the 2015 draft. In those three cases, the positive tests did not appear to significantly affect their draft stock. Because the tests are administered before the draft when the players are not professionals, they have not carried any post-signing penalties for the players."

Thanks Joe, guess they get a free pass for the early transgression.  Maybe even a benefit - see if your dosing regimen passes the tests or not without having any more downside than the PR.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #93: June 08, 2016, 10:50:54 AM »
I think Delvin is a no brainer if he's there with the Nats pick. I just don't think he will be, even with a PED pop.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #94: June 08, 2016, 02:47:10 PM »
Thanks Joe, guess they get a free pass for the early transgression.  Maybe even a benefit - see if your dosing regimen passes the tests or not without having any more downside than the PR.

Yeah, thanks for sharing. Interesting. The MLBPA really is something!

If it could make you a top-5 draft pick, from say something like a low-first or second, that's $4-5M to be had.

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #95: June 08, 2016, 11:22:52 PM »
Do we want a separate thread for the draft talk tomorrow, or simply a rename of this thread? Hope I'm able to catch the MLBN broadcast tomorrow!

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #96: June 08, 2016, 11:35:23 PM »
Do we want a separate thread for the draft talk tomorrow, or simply a rename of this thread? Hope I'm able to catch the MLBN broadcast tomorrow!

Keep this thread going!

Offline madj55

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #97: June 09, 2016, 12:06:41 AM »
I'm excited for this. Hoping for a power bat.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #98: June 09, 2016, 02:02:00 AM »
I want 2 power bats in the first (hoping for 2 out of Rizzo, benson, and kieboom) and upside arms in the second-5th (Dalton feeney or Charles king ideally)

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Re: 2016 draft watch
« Reply #99: June 09, 2016, 08:36:06 AM »
I'm hoping for a power bat as well.  ;)