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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #50: December 17, 2015, 10:53:51 PM »

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #51: December 17, 2015, 10:55:03 PM »
I wish I was 55...
And Harper wishes he had his ring. So we all wish for something.

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« Reply #52: December 17, 2015, 10:55:36 PM »
Our middle infield of Rendon Espinosa Phillips is a magnitude of order better than Escobar Desmond Rendon.  Advanced stats way devalue defense and if those guys all stay healthy and hit like they can then everything improves next year.

Turner in the wings if any of the if suck or get hurt.  I like it.

Advanced stats do not devalue defense.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #53: December 17, 2015, 10:55:56 PM »
Our beloved former prospect has returned!
Yesssssss ExposFan87 is back to bring us holiday cheer!

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #54: December 17, 2015, 10:58:23 PM »
Interesting to note that folks were upset at not getting Zobrist and he's the same age as Phillips and their numbers weren't that far off last year. Phillips doesn't have the same versatility but he is still a very solid player.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #55: December 17, 2015, 10:59:21 PM »
Interesting to note that folks were upset at not getting Zobrist and he's the same age as Phillips and their numbers weren't that far off last year. Phillips doesn't have the same versatility but he is still a very solid player.
Won't have to commit to him for as long, either.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #56: December 17, 2015, 11:02:45 PM »
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal  8m8 minutes ago
Trade agreement between #Reds and #Nationals apparently is in place. Talks with Phillips continue, sources say.


When exactly did they tweet that before BP did?
Paying $27M for a league average player is bad enough, are we going to have too pay extra get him to come from a crap bag team to a contender?

I would not give him another freaking dime. He wants to stay in Cincy let him.

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Re: Re: 2015-2016 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #57: December 17, 2015, 11:03:11 PM »
From Bob Nightengale again....

Many significant issues still unresolved before Brandon Phillips trade is complete: Just bought home in Cincy and his family loves community

Bottom line: Brandon Phillips @DatDudeBP absolutely loves Cincinnati and the #Reds organization and city loves him back.


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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #58: December 17, 2015, 11:04:25 PM »
Interesting to note that folks were upset at not getting Zobrist and he's the same age as Phillips and their numbers weren't that far off last year. Phillips doesn't have the same versatility but he is still a very solid player.

Yep, I'm really psyched for him for some reason.  We needed some new blood and now we've got it.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #59: December 17, 2015, 11:04:36 PM »
From Bob Nightengale again....

Many significant issues still unresolved before Brandon Phillips trade is complete: Just bought home in Cincy and his family loves community

Bottom line: Brandon Phillips @DatDudeBP absolutely loves Cincinnati and the #Reds organization and city loves him back.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #60: December 17, 2015, 11:06:51 PM »
From Bob Nightengale again....

Many significant issues still unresolved before Brandon Phillips trade is complete: Just bought home in Cincy and his family loves community

Bottom line: Brandon Phillips @DatDudeBP absolutely loves Cincinnati and the #Reds organization and city loves him back.

Then why the "I'm leaving Cincy area code coming to DC area code" tweet? :shrug:

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #61: December 17, 2015, 11:06:55 PM »
He'll have a nice new ring or two to wear when he returns home in a couple years.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #62: December 17, 2015, 11:07:05 PM »
Paying $27M for a league average player is bad enough, are we going to have too pay extra get him to come from a crap bag team to a contender?

I would not give him another freaking dime. He wants to stay in Cincy let him.

I won't be excited until I see the return but he was the #8 ranked 2B in 2015. He's above average for his position.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #63: December 17, 2015, 11:08:25 PM »
Then why the "I'm leaving Cincy area code coming to DC area code" tweet? :shrug:

To talk to Dusty & Rizzo and to get something extra out of them. If he's not happy he might stay in Cincy. Who knows?

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #64: December 17, 2015, 11:08:42 PM »
So ... We're,going to pay 30 freaking million for a guy who was worth 0.2 more WAR than Danny Espinosa last year?

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #65: December 17, 2015, 11:13:43 PM »
I won't be excited until I see the return but he was the #8 ranked 2B in 2015. He's above average for his position.

Out of 20 qualified players. The average WAR was 2.45. Phillips was 2.6.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #66: December 17, 2015, 11:13:53 PM »
So ... We're,going to pay 30 freaking million for a guy who was worth 0.2 more WAR than Danny Espinosa last year?

But he's got personality.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #68: December 17, 2015, 11:15:40 PM »
He seems to think that Scandal is filmed in DC.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #69: December 17, 2015, 11:17:45 PM »
Out of 20 qualified players. The average WAR was 2.45. Phillips was 2.6.

If there are only 20 qualified guys that tells the crap that is out there at 2B. I'll take The #8 2B as long as we didn't give up a big time prospect.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #70: December 17, 2015, 11:19:59 PM »
So ... We're,going to pay 30 freaking million for a guy who was worth 0.2 more WAR than Danny Espinosa last year?

If Danny could actually have a WAR In the mid 2's for several years straight he would get 27M on the open market easily. Problem is he's never done that.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #71: December 17, 2015, 11:27:56 PM »
If there are only 20 qualified guys that tells the crap that is out there at 2B. I'll take The #8 2B as long as we didn't give up a big time prospect.
It means he's average. It means we're paying a crap ton of money and hoping to get Yunel Escobar's performance.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #72: December 17, 2015, 11:39:20 PM »
I'll take The #8 2B as long as we didn't give up a big time prospect.

It probably depends on what you consider a big time prospect. Is it top 10 rated in the organization? Ive read that there about 5 prospects that Rizzo said would be very hard to part with. I highly doubt any of those guys would be involved in acquiring a guy like Philips with 27 million owed and a full no trade clause.

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #73: December 17, 2015, 11:39:45 PM »
It means he's average. It means we're paying a crap ton of money and hoping to get Yunel Escobar's performance.

Couldn't agree with you more...we should have kept Yunel...

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Re: Welcome home Brandon Phillips!!!
« Reply #74: December 17, 2015, 11:40:43 PM »
It means he's average. It means we're paying a crap ton of money and hoping to get Yunel Escobar's performance.
BP was worth 0.5 WAR more than Yunel was last year. They project going forward to be about equal, but Yunel's contract was a bargain while BP's is pretty much fair.

Basically, that extra money buys Trevor Gott from the Angels.