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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #150: September 18, 2015, 09:23:54 PM »
Rendon has been a huge sack of suck since he came back.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #151: September 18, 2015, 09:24:06 PM »
Oh man Anthony :hang:

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #152: September 18, 2015, 09:24:27 PM »
His no-hitter, one hitter and another one other shutout sandwiched in between drove his ERA down to where is is.  He's a career 3.5 ERA pitcher with few complete games other than those.

:lmao:

18 times he's gone at  least six innings and given up two earned runs or less.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #153: September 18, 2015, 09:24:28 PM »
3 good outings .... plus the entire first half, right?

3.47 FIP last year with a .270 BABIP and 3.4 WAR. ERA of 4.73 this year. 2014 was a fluke. He can't repeat the performance. In fact, he has regressed since he came to the big leagues in 2013. 1.51 ERA with a .243 BABIP in 2013. Up to a 2.85 ERA and .270 BABIP last year. This year, he's over 4 with a league normal BABIP of .306.

You don't pay those max money contracts for one year. You pay it for years of being consistently great.

His WAR last year ws 5.1...

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #154: September 18, 2015, 09:24:48 PM »
FP thinks Clint stretched too early.  :|
Oh man Anthony :hang:

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #155: September 18, 2015, 09:24:52 PM »
It all counts. If you throw those out you have to throw out his three worst starts.

Then he's basically average then, no? :shrug:

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #156: September 18, 2015, 09:25:10 PM »
:lmao:

18 times he's gone at  least six innings and given up two earned runs or less.

Six innings is not what you get $210MM for...

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #158: September 18, 2015, 09:25:37 PM »
FP thinks Clint stretched too early.  :|

Marlins guys blaming Rendon,

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #159: September 18, 2015, 09:26:05 PM »
Looked like Rendon to me.

Marlins guys blaming Rendon,

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #160: September 18, 2015, 09:26:18 PM »
His no-hitter, one hitter and another one other shutout sandwiched in between drove his ERA down to where is is.  He's a career 3.5 ERA pitcher with few complete games other than those.

If you are going to discount all his outings where he only yielded 1 or 2 runs over 7 frames or more then you have to do the same for Roark who had similar outings on top of outings that only lasted 5 innings or so. Roark's number were also aided by a couple of long outings of shutout baseball. They should both get credit for the good they accomplished.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #161: September 18, 2015, 09:26:37 PM »
Six innings is not what you get $210MM for...

16 of those were 7 or more inning

Kershaw is at 17 right now.


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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #163: September 18, 2015, 09:26:56 PM »
Then he's basically average then, no? :shrug:
I'm not a stats geek but think he would still be above average. It's funny to me how many have gone all ga ga over a few starts by Strasburg when he was so awful the first part of the season. It all counts.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #165: September 18, 2015, 09:28:29 PM »
I'm not a stats geek but think he would still be above average. It's funny to me how many have gone all ga ga over a few starts by Strasburg when he was so awful the first part of the season. It all counts.

So true, Stephen is just SO fun to watch when he's on though, I get the gaga for his good games.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #166: September 18, 2015, 09:28:42 PM »

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #167: September 18, 2015, 09:29:41 PM »
I'm not a stats geek but think he would still be above average. It's funny to me how many have gone all ga ga over a few starts by Strasburg when he was so awful the first part of the season. It all counts.

I think people are just happy that Stras is doing much better, and I think its funny how players generally do better when they are healthy.... 

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #168: September 18, 2015, 09:29:52 PM »
If you are going to discount all his outings where he only yielded 1 or 2 runs over 7 frames or more then you have to do the same for Roark who had similar outings on top of outings that only lasted 5 innings or so. Roark's number were also aided by a couple of long outings of shutout baseball. They should both get credit for the good they accomplished.

Sanity...and Roark delivered better results last year at less than $500K. 

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #169: September 18, 2015, 09:30:06 PM »
I hope the bums get swept at home by the Marlins.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #170: September 18, 2015, 09:30:30 PM »
So true, Stephen is just SO fun to watch when he's on though, I get the gaga for his good games.
Let's hope they can all put it together next season. Too many guys hot and cold this year.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #171: September 18, 2015, 09:31:12 PM »
Sanity...and Roark delivered better results last year at less than $500K. 


But not his year. This year his ERA is over 5 as a starter. This year he sucks.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #172: September 18, 2015, 09:31:59 PM »
But not his year. This year his ERA is over 5 as a starter. This year he sucks.

For $500K....and that doesn't suck as much at Max does for $30MM.

Max added no value...

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #173: September 18, 2015, 09:33:57 PM »
I hope the bums get swept at home by the Marlins.

you are a piece of crap SF.

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Re: Nationals vs Marlins, Game 2
« Reply #174: September 18, 2015, 09:34:58 PM »
2 on....no outs again