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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #50: September 14, 2015, 08:04:13 PM »
Big Mets fan, are you?

What a surprise....Desmond watched 2 good pitches, then dove for dogshyte on the 3rd....and then...another surprise...Ramos the lumbering putz, swings futilely at the first pitch and hits into a DP.....izzat the first time these two events have occurred this season...??  not really, which is why this collection of overpaid hackers will finish the season at least 9 behind the Mets, a real MLB team.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #51: September 14, 2015, 08:06:07 PM »
That's MVP stuff.

There's still three weeks left but if he finishes strong he should win it easily. He needs to hit 40+ HR, at least .330, and more than 90 RBI... then he's set.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #52: September 14, 2015, 08:07:04 PM »
Remember that old Disney sci-fi movie from the early 80's The Black Hole?  That's what I think of every time I see Desmond and Ramos back to back in a lineup.  Just that likely cost us a half dozen games this year.  The bullpen another half dozen, and Williams another.  We should be about 8 games up on the Mets if not for those things.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #53: September 14, 2015, 08:08:47 PM »
Remember that old Disney sci-fi movie from the early 80's The Black Hole?  That's what I think of every time I see Desmond and Ramos back to back in a lineup.  Just that likely cost us a half dozen games this year.  The bullpen another half dozen, and Williams another.  We should be about 8 games up on the Mets if not for those things.

If the bullpen was average, that would have been enough to overcome everything else. The pen lost it, imo.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #54: September 14, 2015, 08:08:54 PM »
Remember that old Disney sci-fi movie from the early 80's The Black Hole?  That's what I think of every time I see Desmond and Ramos back to back in a lineup.  Just that likely cost us a half dozen games this year.  The bullpen another half dozen, and Williams another.  We should be about 8 games up on the Mets if not for those things.

I remember "Old Yeller".       :old:

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #55: September 14, 2015, 08:09:08 PM »

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #56: September 14, 2015, 08:11:36 PM »
You're cranky lately.  You sound like Sportsfan. :D

:razz:

I want Bryce to win but if you're talking about which player has been more valuable to their team, without Cespedes the Mets aren't in the playoffs, the difference in their offense after acquiring him is staggering, that makes him MVP IMO but I get everyone thinks I'm nuts.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #57: September 14, 2015, 08:12:47 PM »
If the bullpen was average, that would have been enough to overcome everything else. The pen lost it, imo.

Desi has to be included in that, there were 6 games his errors led to losses and that's not even counting his suckage at the plate.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #58: September 14, 2015, 08:12:48 PM »
:razz:

I want Bryce to win but if you're talking about which player has been more valuable to their team, without Cespedes the Mets aren't in the playoffs, the difference in their offense after acquiring him is staggering, that makes him MVP IMO but I get everyone thinks I'm nuts.

I don't think you're nuts.    I think you're wrong.   :)

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #59: September 14, 2015, 08:14:13 PM »
I don't think you're nuts Skippy. :D

When you're right  and he wins the MVP, you can hold it over all of our heads.

:razz:

I want Bryce to win but if you're talking about which player has been more valuable to their team, without Cespedes the Mets aren't in the playoffs, the difference in their offense after acquiring him is staggering, that makes him MVP IMO but I get everyone thinks I'm nuts.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #60: September 14, 2015, 08:14:56 PM »
I don't think you're nuts.    I think you're wrong.   :)

Most people do :lol:

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #61: September 14, 2015, 08:15:02 PM »
Desi has to be included in that, there were 6 games his errors led to losses and that's not even counting his suckage at the plate.

I bet the pen blew at least 20 games. Well, it seems like it. How many games have the Nats lost after leading after 6 innings? I would love that stat.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #62: September 14, 2015, 08:15:19 PM »
I don't think you're nuts Skippy. :D

When you're right  and he wins the MVP, you can hold it over all of our heads.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #63: September 14, 2015, 08:16:12 PM »
Desi has to be included in that, there were 6 games his errors led to losses and that's not even counting his suckage at the plate.

I counted him in my original black hole post.  Ramos and E6 have cost us enormously offensively and defensively.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #64: September 14, 2015, 08:17:16 PM »
I bet the pen blew at least 20 games. Well, it seems like it. How many games have the Nats lost after leading after 6 innings? I would love that stat.

Lost 8 after leading after 7.  But it feels like 38.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #65: September 14, 2015, 08:17:52 PM »
Taylor should have gone Votto on welke. 

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #66: September 14, 2015, 08:17:54 PM »
I bet the pen blew at least 20 games. Well, it seems like it. How many games have the Nats lost after leading after 6 innings? I would love that stat.

You should stop hacking accounts, it's frowned upon.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #67: September 14, 2015, 08:18:58 PM »
Desi has to be included in that, there were 6 games his errors led to losses and that's not even counting his suckage at the plate.

Desi is "credited" with 24 errors...several errors were later changed to hits.  The bullpen has sucked of late, but the Nationals are 58-6 when leading after seven. They have not yet lost when leading after eight.

Desmond did more to sink this season than any other individual player.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #68: September 14, 2015, 08:19:37 PM »
You should stop hacking accounts, it's frowned upon.

Say what?

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #69: September 14, 2015, 08:19:44 PM »
Most people do :lol:

Then you're in good company.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #70: September 14, 2015, 08:20:53 PM »
You should stop hacking accounts, it's frowned upon.

What is this about?

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #71: September 14, 2015, 08:20:58 PM »
The bullpen has sucked of late, but the Nationals are 58-6 when leading after seven. They have not yet lost when leading after eight.


Thanks for this. But this is shocking to me. I would have bet they lost at least 15 after seven.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #72: September 14, 2015, 08:24:07 PM »
Stick that knife in the crimson jimson...and twist  :P

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #73: September 14, 2015, 08:24:10 PM »
Ok, I guess I can post now. 

Nice turn on an inside pitch by Werth. 

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1
« Reply #74: September 14, 2015, 08:25:00 PM »
There's that long ball PC referenced.    Does that put him ahead of Cespedes for distance?