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Offline whytev

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #175: March 13, 2015, 01:06:32 PM »
That precedent's been around a long time.    George Harrison found out about it.

No. George Harrison WAS guilty of plagiarism. Same melody. That's the crime.

This is moving the goal posts, and it's dangerous.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #176: March 13, 2015, 01:13:27 PM »
No. George Harrison WAS guilty of plagiarism. Same melody. That's the crime.

This is moving the goal posts, and it's dangerous.

I disagree.     The instant - and a few bars thereafter - that I heard the song, I thought, "Marvin Gaye".    No doubt in my mind   ...       Actually, I thought they were sampling Gaye's tune.    Didn't realize they actually called that an original idea.

Thicke should have kept his mouth shut.   Never ever claim something that is so similar to what you've written inspired you.    I've never been inspired by another musician.    That's my story and I'm stickin' with it.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #177: March 13, 2015, 01:41:18 PM »
I disagree.     The instant - and a few bars thereafter - that I heard the song, I thought, "Marvin Gaye".    No doubt in my mind   ...       Actually, I thought they were sampling Gaye's tune.    Didn't realize they actually called that an original idea.

Thicke should have kept his mouth shut.   Never ever claim something that is so similar to what you've written inspired you.    I've never been inspired by another musician.    That's my story and I'm stickin' with it.

Legally speaking, up until now, beats and backing tracks were fair game, but melodies were not.

I'm no copyright lawyer, but as a songwriter I've done my research.  You can do whatever you want with beats, within reason.  Those songs are similar in feel, but that isn't plagiarism.  The Harrison case is almost note-for-note in the vocal melody.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #178: March 13, 2015, 01:49:30 PM »
The Harrison case is almost note-for-note in the vocal melody.

I loved both songs   ...   I was "unconventional" during those days (just out of the Army, etc.).    It never occurred to me they were the same until the law suit.    And then, "Oh yeah.    Far out."     :)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #179: March 13, 2015, 02:10:19 PM »
Not the only time George was inspired.  Went to James Taylor concert last summer and he mentioned that he originally played his song Something in the Way She Moves for Paul McCartney and George Harrison.  He mentioned that Paul liked it so much he signed him to their record label and joked that George liked it so much he wrote the song.  Of course George shortened the title.  I'm not a musician but some similarities I think.





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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #182: March 13, 2015, 07:03:17 PM »
Leon Russell's launching pad.

I think I saw him at the Cellar Door.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #183: March 13, 2015, 07:07:41 PM »
I think I saw him at the Cellar Door.

I saw him in 73 or 74 at RFK. Great show

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #184: March 13, 2015, 07:08:14 PM »
I saw him in 73 or 74 at RFK. Great show

Was that the Stones' and/or Grateful Dead concert?

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #185: March 13, 2015, 07:12:38 PM »
Was that the Stones' and/or Grateful Dead concert?

I think New Riders of the Purple Sage opened for him.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #186: March 13, 2015, 07:13:40 PM »
I think New Riders of the Purple Sage opened for him.

Man, haven't thought about them in a long time.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #187: March 13, 2015, 07:34:29 PM »
Man, haven't thought about them in a long time.
You guys are really going old school tonight.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #188: March 13, 2015, 08:50:03 PM »
You guys are really going old school tonight.

Made me look up when the New Riders hit the national scene.    Got me thinking about how music evolved while I was in the Army.    Transitioned from Hendrix, Vanilla Fudge, The Fugs, Cream, etc. to more Riders, Commander Cody, Beefheart, The Mothers   ....  R & B and Country changed as well.    From Hootenanny and Bandstand to Soul Train   ....   good times.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #189: March 13, 2015, 11:02:48 PM »
George Harrison makes me think of While My Guitar Gently Weeps

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #190: March 14, 2015, 08:27:01 AM »
George Harrison makes me think of While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Lead guitar by Eric Clapton who ended up scrogging Harrison's wife.   ;)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #191: March 14, 2015, 10:25:55 AM »
Made me look up when the New Riders hit the national scene.    Got me thinking about how music evolved while I was in the Army.    Transitioned from Hendrix, Vanilla Fudge, The Fugs, Cream, etc. to more Riders, Commander Cody, Beefheart, The Mothers   ....  R & B and Country changed as well.    From Hootenanny and Bandstand to Soul Train   ....   good times.
I was just a kid!  Listened to whatever my older brothers were listening to.  Think they transitioned to Chicago, CSNY, Byrds at that time.  And Dylan of course.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #192: March 14, 2015, 10:27:22 AM »
George Harrison makes me think of While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Great song!

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #193: March 14, 2015, 10:27:49 AM »
Lead guitar by Eric Clapton who ended up scrogging Harrison's wife.   ;)
And he got a hit out of it also (Layla)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #194: March 14, 2015, 10:28:55 AM »
I was just a kid!  Listened to whatever my older brothers were listening to.  Think they transitioned to Chicago, CSNY, Byrds at that time.  And Dylan of course.

Byrds and Dylan had been around on the charts for awhile.   Right around being drafted, Chicago came out with Make Me Smile and Colour My World  ...  CSN was hot with Suite Judy Blue Eyes.       I don't care where you served or what you did in the service, it was a cultural dead zone.    :)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #195: March 14, 2015, 10:56:39 AM »
Holy hell, Phil's reading our infringement conversation.    :)    He chatted the Marvin Gaye, Harrison stuff on Nats' Talk.   

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #196: March 14, 2015, 11:07:19 AM »
Holy hell, Phil's reading our infringement conversation.    :)    He chatted the Marvin Gaye, Harrison stuff on Nats' Talk.   
Let's sue him.

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #197: March 14, 2015, 11:09:25 AM »
Let's sue him.

I say we take up a collection for him if he's reading this this crap.    :)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #198: March 14, 2015, 01:37:37 PM »
Holy hell, Phil's reading our infringement conversation.    :)    He chatted the Marvin Gaye, Harrison stuff on Nats' Talk.   

Did he compare it to the Andrews sisters court case of 1941?   :)

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Re: What are you listening to? (2015)
« Reply #199: March 14, 2015, 05:12:01 PM »
I say we take up a collection for him if he's reading this this crap.    :)
You're right.  Definitely needs funding to help the hair.