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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #75: February 02, 2015, 10:28:51 PM »
you have my deepest respect (or sympathy) for watching this much.

Hey, the WWE network is free for February, sign up and watch some Flair matches from the 80's and 90's to clear your mind of this crap.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #76: February 02, 2015, 10:37:33 PM »
So what can Sandow do when they split up him and Miz? He was kind of a nobody before becoming Mizdow, yes? Also, who the hell is actually watching Total Divas? It's obviously targeted at women. Do women actually freaking watch it?

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #77: February 02, 2015, 10:45:24 PM »
Roman sounds more heel than babyface IMO.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #78: February 02, 2015, 11:09:16 PM »
Here is the thing about Reigns.

Its not that they are "forcing him down their throats". They arent.

Or that he is still pretty green. He is alright.

Or that his promos need work.

Fans like Reigns, generally. They liked him when he was a heel with the Shield. And they liked him when the Shield broke up and he went face.

He just isnt Daniel Bryan. THAT'S IT!

The fans want Daniel Bryan to headline WM and win and hold the title forever.  So they will be against anyone in that spot who isnt Daniel Bryan. Reigns just happens to be the guy in that spot. So he gets booed.  Batista was that guy last year. This is the exact same.

Everything else is noise.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #79: February 02, 2015, 11:23:27 PM »
Um... that was really good for the most part. Some story bits were meh, but the matches were good. Bryan vs. Rollins was fantastic. The SBNation wrestling blog is very surprised to get a good Raw. I'm glad I watched.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #80: February 03, 2015, 02:16:56 PM »
Ziggler oversells way too hard. He's gonna legit kill himself.

No.  Hardest worker in the business.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #81: February 03, 2015, 04:16:02 PM »
Here is the thing about Reigns.

Its not that they are "forcing him down their throats". They arent.

Or that he is still pretty green. He is alright.

Or that his promos need work.

Fans like Reigns, generally. They liked him when he was a heel with the Shield. And they liked him when the Shield broke up and he went face.

He just isnt Daniel Bryan. THAT'S IT!

The fans want Daniel Bryan to headline WM and win and hold the title forever.  So they will be against anyone in that spot who isnt Daniel Bryan. Reigns just happens to be the guy in that spot. So he gets booed.  Batista was that guy last year. This is the exact same.

Everything else is noise.

Uh, bringing in The Rock in an attempt to get face heat for him because they know the fans don't want him to win is the VERY DEFINITION of forcing him down people's throats.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #82: February 03, 2015, 04:45:08 PM »
No.  Hardest worker in the business.
if by that you mean he sells every hit like he's been run over by a bus, then yeah, that is true.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #83: February 03, 2015, 06:21:47 PM »
Surprised Orton didn't come back last night with how heavy they played it up earlier in the night.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #84: February 03, 2015, 11:57:15 PM »
There's a really good interview with Damien Sandow on Jericho's podcast this week.  That podcast has become about my favorite thing in wrestling these days, the interview with Hogan a few weeks ago was fantastic.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #85: February 04, 2015, 07:28:17 AM »
if by that you mean he sells every hit like he's been run over by a bus, then yeah, that is true.

By your own admission, you've watched exactly one match.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #86: February 05, 2015, 03:00:20 AM »
By your own admission, you've watched exactly one match.

He isn't wrong about Ziggler's selling though.

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« Reply #87: February 05, 2015, 11:59:38 AM »
He isn't wrong about Ziggler's selling though.

He's a smaller guy who routinely rassles guys 75 lbs. his superior.  It's not over-selling, it's playing a role.

Big Show losing to a one-legged moonsault by Zack Gowan was overselling.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #88: February 05, 2015, 01:56:44 PM »
Don't know how anyone can knock Ziggy these days.  The guy is a main-eventer, should be in the title hunt.  Complete package (like Bryan, Rollins and Ambrose).  I like Reigns as much as the next fan, but he does need work on his skill set and in ring work.  He has the look, that's cool, but there's more to it. 

As for why Orton is being kept off air...I think if Wyatt doesn't start the program with Taker soon, they'll have Orton be the guy he was talking about on Monday in his promo.

Also, they better take the kid gloves off The Ascension.  Those guys are ready for destruction. 

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #89: February 05, 2015, 06:53:30 PM »
Don't know how anyone can knock Ziggy these days.  The guy is a main-eventer, should be in the title hunt.  Complete package (like Bryan, Rollins and Ambrose).  I like Reigns as much as the next fan, but he does need work on his skill set and in ring work.  He has the look, that's cool, but there's more to it. 

As for why Orton is being kept off air...I think if Wyatt doesn't start the program with Taker soon, they'll have Orton be the guy he was talking about on Monday in his promo.

Also, they better take the kid gloves off The Ascension.  Those guys are ready for destruction. 


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Come back more often, please.  Though I disagree about The Ascension.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #90: February 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PM »
I don't think Reigns has the ability to connect with the crowd as a babyface.  His promos are a mess.  Turning him heel could/should solve that.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #91: February 05, 2015, 11:58:26 PM »
I don't think Reigns has the ability to connect with the crowd as a babyface.  His promos are a mess.  Turning him heel could/should solve that.

and putting him with Heyman might help, but there's something about the guy that just doesn't click, it's like 5 move Cena without the charisma. 

Reminder - New Japan is on at 8 PM on AXS Friday, english commentators, and two very good matches on tap.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #92: February 06, 2015, 09:30:27 AM »
I don't think Reigns has the ability to connect with the crowd as a babyface.  His promos are a mess.  Turning him heel could/should solve that.

This x 100

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #93: February 06, 2015, 04:37:23 PM »
for the Finn Baylor fans, his former incarnation of Prince Devitt vs Tanahashi is one of the matches on New Japan tonight.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #94: February 06, 2015, 10:08:03 PM »
Unbelievable njpw show tonight. Okada vs Finn Baylor / prince devitt next week.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #95: February 07, 2015, 11:23:22 PM »
a bunch of the wrestle kingdom 9 matches, with Jim Ross and Matt Striker on commentary, are now available on-line.  Here's a match Dave Metlzer rated as five stars, one of only 11 matches to achieve such a rating in the last 10 years:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e4cuy_2015-01-04-shinsuke-nakamura-vs-kota-ibushi-njpw-wrestle-kingdom-9_sport

here's the complete list of 5 star matches:

http://www.profightdb.com/top-rated-matches.html

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #96: February 08, 2015, 12:06:16 AM »
How is Balor still appearing on NJPW when he left quite a while ago?

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #97: February 08, 2015, 10:09:17 AM »
How is Balor still appearing on NJPW when he left quite a while ago?

The njpw show on AXS is airing matches from major shows starting in 2013 and moving forward each week.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #98: February 09, 2015, 11:31:13 AM »
wrestling observer is reporting that Vince McMahon's current plan for WM is a three way with Reigns, Bryan, and Lesnar.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2015)
« Reply #99: February 09, 2015, 12:12:20 PM »
wrestling observer is reporting that Vince McMahon's current plan for WM is a three way with Reigns, Bryan, and Lesnar.

Maybe next year they'll just actually add Bryan to the main event from the start.

Having said that... I hope Brock sticks around, keeps the title at WM and doesn't lose it for another year... and they just continue to build him as the ultimate machine. Lots of quick main event squashes like he had against Cena. That way, when someone finally does beat him, they're made.