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Which Max year was better, 2016 or 2017? (reply 865 has some comparitive stats)

2016 - better record, more innings, more Ks
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2017 - better ERA, WHIP, FIP; personal best ERA relative to league; fewer HRs per fly, per IP
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Author Topic: The $210 Million Man - Scherzer Appreciation and Doubts  (Read 50941 times)

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Offline tomterp

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I've seen the greatness of Astacio, O'Connor, and Bascik, and Scherzer looks better than them too.  Damn.

Mike pitched for us in 2006 and 2008 - then he pitched 6.2 for the Mets in 2011 giving up 5 hits, 3 walks but only 2 runs.  After that he hung around the minors till 2013, last pitching for Rochester.  Nice guy, I think his mom used to post here.  Sure didn't throw very hard though.  Pitched in college for GW.

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Steve Rogers, Bill Lee, Dennis Martinez, . . .

Offline whytev

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he may end up the 3d best pitcher to ever pitch for the franchise, behind the Big Unit and Pedro.

:couch:

Big Unit only achieved greatness after.

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Big Unit only achieved greatness after.
right.  Pedro did get a Cy with the franchise.

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I love him :lol:

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I love him :lol:

When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.

Kinda like Roark...


Offline Ray D

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When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.




And he was REALLY bad last night.  Bad 3 of his last four starts.  Might have been pitcher of the month June, but he's making a case for bum of the month July.

And how about our (projected) Historically Great Starting Rotation.  It's come to the point where there isn't a single current starter that I'm comfortable with, that I am confident we'll win because he's pitching.   Each one is a unique case, but with Scherzer, with the money we're spending, we expected more.

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When he's good...he's really good.  When he's bad...he's really bad.

Kinda like Roark...



Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.

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Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.

I never thought we needed to do the Scherzer deal to begin with, but now I'm starting to think that Rizzo really got snookered...

...and we've ruined Roark in the process...



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And I thought you people were reactionary before, mother of god

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And I thought you people were reactionary before, mother of god

I see...gotta have faith, huh?  Sorry, maybe at $1MM per year like Tanner gets, not at $1MM per game pitched like Max gets...

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I see...gotta have faith, huh?  Sorry, maybe at $1MM per year like Tanner gets, not at $1MM per game pitched like Max gets...

That you can even compare Roark with Scherzer and maintain a straight face and not feel a shred of shame about it is laughable.

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That you can even compare Roark with Scherzer and maintain a straight face and not feel a shred of shame about it is laughable.

Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...


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Yea, seems like the more charming I find him the worse he pitches  :?

But Roark used to be mister consistency until Williams started jerking him around so I give him more of a pass than our $210 million dollar man.
If you could go back to getting all steamy over Tyler Moore, that would be great.

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Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...

>pitcher wins

im done

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Roark was 15-10 last year.  Where does Scherzer end up this year sporting his oh so average 10-8 record?

And I screwed up...Roark is making $530K this year.  So Scherzer makes 56 times what Roark makes.  Worth it?  I think not...



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Bernie Sanders should include Sherzer in his anti-CEO and -banker screed

Senator Sanders' screeds should begin and end with the body of which he's a member. 

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Pretty sure Scherzer is still the top pitcher in baseball by WAR?

Just checked, he is

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Time to earn your money.

Offline skippy1999

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Time to earn your money.

he'll never do enough to earn all that money  >:(

Offline Optics

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He's regressing. To be expected I guess, he's always been around a 3 ERA SP, but we need him to be at a Cy Young level the last two months. 3 ER in 6 IP against Arizona is disappointing.

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He's regressing. To be expected I guess, he's always been around a 3 ERA SP, but we need him to be at a Cy Young level the last two months. 3 ER in 6 IP against Arizona is disappointing.

I think either C & D or Bob and FP were wondering if it was that stretch of all those complete game/8 inning games that has worn him down.  Would extra rest this month help do you think?

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Would extra rest this month help do you think?


It would give him a longer offseason to recover

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It would give him a longer offseason to recover

ouch, ok not an option I guess. 

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It would give him a longer offseason to recover

We seem to be on track for that...