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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #900: November 12, 2015, 09:51:13 PM »
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The Angels have officially agreed to acquire shortstop Andrelton Simmons from the Braves, along with catcher Jose Briceno. Lefty Sean Newcomb and righty Chris Ellis are going to Atlanta in return, along with long-time Halos shortstop Erick Aybar. The Braves will pick up $2.5MM in the swap to offset some of Aybar’s salary.

I don't get what the Braves are trying to do here

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« Reply #901: November 13, 2015, 05:03:18 AM »
Apparently Newcomb is the real deal and should be ready in short order. They also can flip Aybar either before the season or at the deadline and get more prospects. That's my take.

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« Reply #902: November 13, 2015, 08:27:54 AM »
Apparently Newcomb is the real deal and should be ready in short order. They also can flip Aybar either before the season or at the deadline and get more prospects. That's my take.
Newcomb has one of the highest K rates in the minors...and one of the highest walk rates.

I agree he is the real deal, but he will be realer in a couple years when he learns to manage what he's got.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #903: November 13, 2015, 08:52:54 AM »
I guess Hart really just wants a reset and thinks it is easier to get high end pitching through a trade for multiple good to very good guys while they're in the minors than to buy as a free agent and watch him decline (JZ warning).  Aybar is flippable if this is another down year in Atlanta.

The funny thing is, while it clears long term commitments, Simmons wasn't dramatically expensive over the next 5 years. His contract will generate value because they don't pay him much while he is the best D guy in MLB. While Simmons is great defensively, maybe he thinks there's always a good glove SS available, and Simmons O has not contributed anything.  I guess they don't want to be holding Simmons at 30 / 31, owing him $28MM, and have his defense maybe decline to very good from spectacular.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #904: November 13, 2015, 09:05:29 AM »
...and Atlanta's high-speed roster-churning continues (didn't they go through a MLB-record number of players last season?). Still unsure what kind of ultimate line-up they're aiming for.

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« Reply #905: November 13, 2015, 09:15:40 AM »
...and Atlanta's high-speed roster-churning continues (didn't they go through a MLB-record number of players last season?). Still unsure what kind of ultimate line-up they're aiming for.

something competitive when they move would be my guess, I doubt they care much about next season

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« Reply #906: November 13, 2015, 10:10:33 AM »
something competitive when they move would be my guess, I doubt they care much about next season

Makes as much sense as anything I could think of...but the 800Lb gorilla in the room in that kind of scenario would, I think, be the Mets - if NYM manage to re-sign their free agents (especially Cespedes) they could be settling in the upper reaches of the division for a nice long stay, regardless of what the other four clubs do (of course the Braves could try for the wild card but...).

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« Reply #907: November 13, 2015, 10:13:06 AM »
Makes as much sense as anything I could think of...but the 800Lb gorilla in the room in that kind of scenario would, I think, be the Mets - if NYM manage to re-sign their free agents (especially Cespedes) they could be settling in the upper reaches of the division for a nice long stay, regardless of what the other four clubs do (of course the Braves could try for the wild card but...).

if the 2012 nats prove anything, it's that projecting continued dominance from a core of young players making a great run is foolish

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« Reply #908: November 13, 2015, 10:30:57 AM »
if the 2012 nats prove anything, it's that projecting continued dominance from a core of young players making a great run is foolish

Basically true...but any competition against New York is fundamentally ipso facto a handicap match.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #909: November 15, 2015, 09:42:10 AM »
Atlanta fans are grumbling that they are a small market team and that the attendance market will shrink when they open the new stadium: intersection is already congested, much parking will be at a mall from which fans must walk over a yet-to-be-constructed footbridge. No mass transportation.

Several mention that the team will stick with a $100 - $110 million payroll. 

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« Reply #910: November 17, 2015, 09:08:38 AM »
...and now the Braves are shopping Freddie Freeman? Thought he was untouchable at that club: http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/157408106?partnerId=ed-9872553-850341863

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #911: November 17, 2015, 01:11:30 PM »
...and now the Braves are shopping Freddie Freeman? Thought he was untouchable at that club: http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/157408106?partnerId=ed-9872553-850341863

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Brian Cashman's ears have got to be perking up though they still have another year of Tex, but Freeman would be perfect for that park.

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« Reply #912: November 17, 2015, 08:04:47 PM »
Nice little move by the Giants to lock up 4 years of Brandon Crawfords free agency for probably $15 million per. The way he hits now that's a bargain for a 4-WAR SS.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #913: November 17, 2015, 10:15:47 PM »
Brian Cashman's ears have got to be perking up though they still have another year of Tex, but Freeman would be perfect for that park.
you know, atlanta would probably even be willing to take back Tex for a year if they got more assets out of the deal.

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Re: MLB & Division Watching (2015)
« Reply #914: November 17, 2015, 11:40:13 PM »
Rich Hill to the A's on a one-year deal, mlbtr says he turned down more money to pitch elsewhere because he has a guaranteed rotation spot in Oakland.