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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #1: November 18, 2014, 09:18:12 AM »
And the Marlins with their low payroll are irrelevant for the next decade.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #2: November 18, 2014, 09:51:31 AM »
Good for BGS.  He gets to smash homers and get paid and can opt out when he hits 30.  Win-win for him.  Start polishing his HOF plaque.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #3: November 18, 2014, 10:03:40 AM »
They must have one whale of a local-telly deal and/or some really big revenues off luxury suites, corporate season tickets and parking passes...because they certainly don't get the big crowds.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #4: November 18, 2014, 10:15:25 AM »
Good thing Yankees & Dodgers fans don't mind subsidising mega contracts in dead markets such as this.
They must have one whale of a local-telly deal and/or some really big revenues off luxury suites, corporate season tickets and parking passes...because they certainly don't get the big crowds.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #5: November 18, 2014, 10:15:57 AM »
They must have one whale of a local-telly deal and/or some really big revenues off luxury suites, corporate season tickets and parking passes...because they certainly don't get the big crowds.

Forbes says they bring in almost $30 million less in revenues than the Oakland A's and $20 million less than the Royals....how is that even possible? It's not gate receipts either. How do you manage to run a deficit while spending $50 million on payroll?

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #6: November 18, 2014, 10:16:50 AM »
How do you manage to run a deficit while spending $50 million on payroll?

very creative accounting

Offline NJ Ave

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #7: November 18, 2014, 10:27:43 AM »
very creative accounting

Exactly. Putting your wife as an executive VP with a $25 million salary?

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #8: November 18, 2014, 10:33:28 AM »
Loria is like Robin Hood, except he doesn't give the loot to the poor.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #9: November 18, 2014, 10:36:53 AM »
Loria is like Robin Hood, except he doesn't give the loot to the poor.

I suppose it helps the other Lords of Baseball to have Loria run the Miami team.

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Re: Stanton signs richest deal in US sports history
« Reply #10: November 18, 2014, 12:45:30 PM »
Exactly. Putting your wife as an executive VP with a $25 million salary?

Affirmative action!


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Sure. I'm watching the Mets, though, with luxury pieces in Cuddyer and Granderson. Salary probably isn't so high, but the Mets gave up a 1st round for Cuddyer (at ;least I think they did...Mets fans have been screaming about it). Now, maybe Taylor H, Taylor J, Cole, and a minor league catcher for Giancarlo Stanton? How long can the Marlins afford the contract? Doesn't it have a steep upgrade soon?

Stanton isn't getting traded until 2017. Here's his contract break down 15:$6.5M, 16:$9M, 17:$14.5M, 18:$25M, 19:$26M, 20:$26M, 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout). He has an opt out after 2020.

Offline varoadking

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Stanton isn't getting traded until 2017. Here's his contract break down 15:$6.5M, 16:$9M, 17:$14.5M, 18:$25M, 19:$26M, 20:$26M, 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout). He has an opt out after 2020.

I was really confused when this got done...does he have the opt out after 6 years, or do the Marlins have the opt out?  The initial report had it as the latter...


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Cots has is as "Stanton may opt out of contract after 2020 season" but, he'd probably be pretty ballsy to do so (he'd be leaving $218 million on the table at age 30)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league/miami-marlins/

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I was really confused when this got done...does he have the opt out after 6 years, or do the Marlins have the opt out?  The initial report had it as the latter...



Either way, I think the Marlins will start trying to trade him after 2016. Who would buy that contract? Maybe the Nats, but only in a trade for the Harrisburg backup catcher. "Good gracious", as my grandmother used to say.

Maybe Loria will just give Stanton the team and walk away?

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Cots has is as "Stanton may opt out of contract after 2020 season" but, he'd probably be pretty ballsy to do so (he'd be leaving $218 million on the table at age 30)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league/miami-marlins/

Assume there's a 100% chance he only opts out if he is absolutely sure a team is going to pay him substantially more than $218 million. Much like A-Rod opting out of the first mega-deal...

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Assume there's a 100% chance he only opts out if he is absolutely sure a team is going to pay him substantially more than $218 million. Much like A-Rod opting out of the first mega-deal...

you would think teams would look at what happened with the arod deal and learn- before a player's age 25 season, a mega deal may work out for all parties, after the age 30 season, that becomes more questionable. Right now, Stanton's getting paid  $29M for his age 31 season, $29M for age 32, $32M for age 33, $32M for age 34, $32M for age 35, $29M for age 36, $25M for age 37, $25M for age 38. Maybe with inflation, he beats that, but that's a lot of money for decline years (to make it worth his while, some team will either have to tack on a bunch of years of a bunch of AAV in the same number of years, either way, it's a huge risk for that team and for Stanton to opt out). Similarly, ARod opted out after his age 31 season (his original deal had two years left, each of which he was extremely good) and resigned tacking an additional 7 years onto his deal carrying him through his age 41 season; I wonder if they regret that now? But yes, if he's absolutely sure, he'll opt out, but there is no way he can be absolutely sure, so why risk it?

Offline Ray D

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Assume there's a 100% chance he only opts out if he is absolutely sure a team is going to pay him substantially more than $218 million.

Not necessarily.  By that time he may be desperate to get out of Miami, and be willing to take a cut.  For example $210M.

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Not necessarily.  By that time he may be desperate to get out of Miami, and be willing to take a cut.  For example $210M.

pretty sure Loria won't risk it and he'll be gone between 2017 (14.5 million) and 2018 (25 million) - that gives the acquiring team 3 years for $72 so he'll still have a lot of trade value.

Offline DCFan

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Cots has is as "Stanton may opt out of contract after 2020 season" but, he'd probably be pretty ballsy to do so (he'd be leaving $218 million on the table at age 30)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league/miami-marlins/

One Bryce Harper will reset the free agent market in 2019 which will give Stanton some quidance on opting out or not.