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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #75: May 06, 2015, 11:00:26 AM »
partial tear.  Last I saw he was going to try to pitch through it.

has this ever worked? I can't remember anyone 'pitching through it' or rehabbing and actually avoiding TJ

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« Reply #76: May 06, 2015, 12:46:48 PM »
partial tear.  Last I saw he was going to try to pitch through it. Maybe a platelet rich blood injection, too.  Stinks for my fantasy team.
Oh yes, I'm sure that will turn out smashingly.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #77: May 08, 2015, 04:00:24 PM »
partial tear.  Last I saw he was going to try to pitch through it. Maybe a platelet rich blood injection, too.  Stinks for my fantasy team.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/rays-ace-alex-cobb-to-undergo-tommy-john-elbow-surgery/

Still stinks for your fantasy team, though.   :)

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #78: May 08, 2015, 04:18:21 PM »
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/rays-ace-alex-cobb-to-undergo-tommy-john-elbow-surgery/

Still stinks for your fantasy team, though.   :)
too bad for him.  I guess that this means he's probably not back in MLB until after the 2016 All Star game.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #79: May 10, 2015, 12:24:50 AM »
With pitchers dropping left and right, do you guys think teams will change their approaches to acquiring prospects and focus primarilly on getting large quantities of position player prospects like the Epstein Cubs and the mid-2000s Brewers did instead of pinning all their hopes on young pitchers?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #80: May 10, 2015, 05:21:30 AM »
Pitching is still too much of the game.  Another view would be to treat pitchers like a production line and have more of them to fill in when some pitchers arms blow out.  But it does give MLB a reason to not give great signing bonuses due to the risk involved with young arms.

With pitchers dropping left and right, do you guys think teams will change their approaches to acquiring prospects and focus primarilly on getting large quantities of position player prospects like the Epstein Cubs and the mid-2000s Brewers did instead of pinning all their hopes on young pitchers?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #81: May 10, 2015, 01:04:09 PM »
Pitching is still too much of the game.  Another view would be to treat pitchers like a production line and have more of them to fill in when some pitchers arms blow out.  But it does give MLB a reason to not give great signing bonuses due to the risk involved with young arms.

It would slow the game down, but shorter starts would help. If starters rarely went over 80 pitches, and you were allowed to carry 30 guys, suddenly that load is shifted.

I know relievers get the surgery too, but not as often.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #82: May 11, 2015, 10:47:01 AM »
Pitching is still too much of the game.  Another view would be to treat pitchers like a production line and have more of them to fill in when some pitchers arms blow out.  But it does give MLB a reason to not give great signing bonuses due to the risk involved with young arms.

That assumes that all pitching prospects are the same and MLB level starters are fungible, which they're obviously not.  Expanding the roster and watering down starting pitching is a terrible idea.  Anyone remember when the Rockies tried that and failed?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #83: May 14, 2015, 04:38:13 AM »
I'm not suggesting watering down starting pitching - only having more arms to fill in as arms blow out

That assumes that all pitching prospects are the same and MLB level starters are fungible, which they're obviously not.  Expanding the roster and watering down starting pitching is a terrible idea.  Anyone remember when the Rockies tried that and failed?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #84: May 14, 2015, 08:54:17 AM »
I'm not suggesting watering down starting pitching - only having more arms to fill in as arms blow out



which has the effect of watering down pitching (or hitting if you use all of your assets to create a pitching assembly line)



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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #90: May 11, 2016, 09:18:44 PM »
Education? Smarter managing?
Everyone already had one?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #91: May 11, 2016, 09:22:36 PM »
Everyone already had one?

Yeah there's that.


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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #93: August 12, 2016, 04:35:28 PM »
Looks like Greinke is next.

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