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Offline Mr Clean

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #25: May 29, 2014, 12:24:38 PM »
I read it and did not see anything about kids throwing breaking pitches or changeups. Did I miss that part?

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« Reply #26: May 29, 2014, 12:25:27 PM »
I read it and did not see anything about kids throwing breaking pitches or changeups. Did I miss that part?

it seems most of the focus now is on the damage done by trying to throw hard, the old CW that curve balls damaged elbows seems to have gone out the window.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #27: August 15, 2014, 03:58:42 PM »
Max Fried scheduled for August 20th

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #28: August 21, 2014, 02:56:19 PM »
I'm going with decreased quality in diet, more processed and fast foods, not enough fruit and vegetables. Food and other chemical additives and decreased water quality. And yes PED and even legal supplements too. The other youth league abuses too.  Winter ball has been around a long time though. I remember major leaguer's doing that in the 60's


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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #29: August 26, 2014, 05:35:19 PM »
Jonny Venters rehab shut down. Off to see Dr. Andrews

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #30: August 27, 2014, 04:02:19 PM »
Jonny Venters rehab shut down. Off to see Dr. Andrews

That's his second TJS, right?

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« Reply #31: August 27, 2014, 04:22:26 PM »
That's his second TJS, right?

He is on his second now.

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« Reply #32: August 28, 2014, 10:29:17 AM »
He is on his second now.
That's what I meant. He was coming back from his second TJS.

Barves are great at ruining young pitchers.

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« Reply #33: August 28, 2014, 06:29:27 PM »
Venters tore his UCL.

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« Reply #34: August 28, 2014, 06:34:20 PM »
Venters tore his UCL.
Atlanta seriously needs to reevaluate how it handles injured pitchers. Beachy, Medlen, and Venters all needing repeat TJ in the span of a season? That's no random coincidence.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #35: August 28, 2014, 06:50:06 PM »
Can I suggest Venters finds another line of work other than pitching a baseball after his third TJS?

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #36: August 28, 2014, 10:19:26 PM »
Maybe these posts about Venters and all the repeat TJs for the Barves should be moved to the Knights Templar / D-bag thread because they are doing things the right way?

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« Reply #37: August 28, 2014, 10:21:18 PM »
Maybe these posts about Venters and all the repeat TJs for the Barves should be moved to the Knights Templar / D-bag thread because they are doing things the right way?
I guess Venters, Medlen, and Beachy weren't gutty and confident enough to recover properly.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #40: August 29, 2014, 12:49:36 AM »
Atlanta seriously needs to reevaluate how it handles injured pitchers. Beachy, Medlen, and Venters all needing repeat TJ in the span of a season? That's no random coincidence.

Who thinks the 2012 shutdown was a bad idea now? Nobody!

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« Reply #41: August 29, 2014, 07:30:49 AM »
Nice, where'd you find that Slate?

SBnation. I find it very telling. I think it's pretty obvious that the Braves don't groom their pitchers for the future, mainly because they have no intention of keeping them long term.

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« Reply #42: August 29, 2014, 10:16:23 AM »
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is that surgeries while with the team or is that guys who have had it in the past that are in the system? 

Don Cooper or the White Sox medical staff ought to explain what they are doing to save a lot of injuries.  For the med staff, it is almost like a drug trial that goes so well you need to end it early and spread the results.

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« Reply #43: August 29, 2014, 10:17:45 AM »
is that surgeries while with the team or is that guys who have had it in the past that are in the system? 

With the team

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #44: August 29, 2014, 10:19:44 AM »
White Sox doctors should be talking.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #45: August 29, 2014, 10:22:25 AM »
looks like the Nats have 13 in the system.  How many can you name off the top of your head?  Strasburg, JZ, Giolito, Solis, Mattheus (but that was before), Garcia is gone, Meyers is gone, ...

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« Reply #46: August 29, 2014, 10:24:55 AM »
looks like the Nats have 13 in the system.  How many can you name off the top of your head?  Strasburg, JZ, Giolito, Solis, Mattheus (but that was before), Garcia is gone, Meyers is gone, ...


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« Reply #47: August 29, 2014, 10:30:53 AM »
looks like the Nats have 13 in the system.  How many can you name off the top of your head?  Strasburg, JZ, Giolito, Solis, Mattheus (but that was before), Garcia is gone, Meyers is gone, ...

Fedde,Jordan, Purke,Soriano,

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« Reply #48: August 29, 2014, 11:54:10 AM »
looks like the Nats have 13 in the system.  How many can you name off the top of your head?  Strasburg, JZ, Giolito, Solis, Mattheus (but that was before), Garcia is gone, Meyers is gone, ...

Rendon.

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Re: The Tommy John Epidemic
« Reply #49: August 29, 2014, 12:04:46 PM »
No longer in system: Jack McGeary

In system: Daniel Rosenbaum, Erik Davis