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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #50: November 13, 2012, 07:50:03 PM »
Marlins have a payroll of around 16million, not including arbitration guys.
If they deal Nolasco- and there is no reason for them not too at this point with one year left on his sizable contract- that would slice off $11 million more.

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« Reply #51: November 13, 2012, 07:50:25 PM »
Ha - so all those extra TV millions the teams will be getting next year, plus the income from the brand new facility they built on the taxpayer dime - all that can just go right into Loria's pocket. 

This is Miami's penance for Lebron-gate a couple of years ago.

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« Reply #52: November 13, 2012, 07:50:43 PM »
Don't fear, Marlins fans! You might get Jeff Mathis!

And this is happening according to MLBTR. Miami also sending $4 million to Toronto.

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« Reply #53: November 13, 2012, 07:52:06 PM »
Damn. We could've given them Flores, Espinosa, and something else for all those guys. Now Stanton is gonna cost a crap ton.

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« Reply #54: November 13, 2012, 07:52:13 PM »
So this is twice in 2012 that teams have traded MAJOR portions of their starting lineup/rotation.

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« Reply #55: November 13, 2012, 07:53:26 PM »
Wow, the Marlins chose Mathis over Arencibia? They are insane.

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« Reply #56: November 13, 2012, 07:54:20 PM »
Wow, the Marlins chose Mathis over Arencibia? They are insane.
Did they hire Mike Scosica as their new manager? Because that is the only explanation for why that happened.

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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #57: November 13, 2012, 07:54:24 PM »
Well they already have a starter in Brantly.

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« Reply #58: November 13, 2012, 07:54:29 PM »
So this is twice in 2012 that teams have traded MAJOR portions of their starting lineup/rotation.

They should just blow up Miami. Or sell the team to an owner that'll be competitive. That Marlins fan must be heading for a bridge right now.

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« Reply #59: November 13, 2012, 07:55:58 PM »
They should just blow up Miami. Or sell the team to an owner that'll be competitive. That Marlins fan must be heading for a bridge right now.

I feel for NatsAddict.

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« Reply #60: November 13, 2012, 07:57:27 PM »
I feel for NatsAddict.
Speaking of Marlins fans, has anyone seen Boss since this deal went down?

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« Reply #61: November 13, 2012, 08:04:02 PM »
I really hope teams are at least calling in for Stanton. He has to know he's next. You don't trade away everyone and leave your most talented player surrounded by crap... unless he did something to piss off Loria.

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« Reply #62: November 13, 2012, 08:05:34 PM »
I really hope teams are at least calling in for Stanton. He has to know he's next. You don't trade away everyone and leave your most talented player surrounded by crap... unless he did something to piss of Loria.
Jose Altuve and Astros say hi.

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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #63: November 13, 2012, 08:06:36 PM »
Jose Altuve and Astros say hi.

Altuve's 21, the Astros have real ownership and a talented front office, and they plan to keep him for when they're successful, Ryan Zimmerman-style. The Marlins don't have a plan to succeed in the future, just to make more money.

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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #64: November 13, 2012, 08:07:45 PM »
Amanda Comak ‏@acomak

Davey on the Manager of the Year conference call says he wishes the #Marlins would send the HR sculpture to Toronto, too.



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Davey is the master.

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« Reply #65: November 13, 2012, 08:08:31 PM »
Altuve's 21, the Astros have real ownership and a talented front office, and they plan to keep him for when they're successful, Ryan Zimmerman-style. The Marlins don't have a plan to succeed in the future, just to make more money.
Pretty much accurate. I'm just saying that it can be done, although it has been proven that the Fish don't care enough to even try to do it right like the 'Stros.

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« Reply #66: November 13, 2012, 08:13:54 PM »
(1) How often do so many players get traded in one deal? 

(2) Don't I remember that the owner of the Marlins is the same sea-slug who destroyed baseball in Montreal and got the Florida franchise as some kind of payment?

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« Reply #67: November 13, 2012, 08:15:10 PM »
This trade will have massive repercussions for baseball in Miami. Loria basically just killed his franchise. No one will sign there, fans won't show up, and the players that are there will have no confidence in management at all. This isn't like Oakland and Tampa playing Moneyball where players and fans know that they are trying to win despite low payrolls. This is Loria skywriting that he doesn't give a freak. If he doesn't care, what should anyone involved in the organization at any level, from the fans, to the players, to the coaches, care either? Unless he sells the team, this could mark the beginning of the end of the Marlins franchise.

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« Reply #68: November 13, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »
This trade will have massive repercussions for baseball in Miami. Loria basically just killed his franchise. No one will sign there, fans won't show up, and the players that are there will have no confidence in management at all. This isn't like Oakland and Tampa playing Moneyball where players and fans know that they are trying to win despite low payrolls. This is Loria skywriting that he doesn't give a freak. If he doesn't care, what should anyone involved in the organization at any level, from the fans, to the players, to the coaches, care either? Unless he sells the team, this could mark the beginning of the end of the Marlins franchise.

That franchise should have been contracted/dissolved/moved a LONG time ago


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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #69: November 13, 2012, 08:19:16 PM »
Unless he sells the team, this could mark the beginning of the end of the Marlins franchise.
He'll have to won't he? I guess he'll still make some money if he keeps a payroll as it is right now, so maybe not. I'm sure someone would love to come in and invest in the team. Stocked up with prospects, brand new stadium, a big star to build around.

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« Reply #71: November 13, 2012, 08:24:50 PM »
Anyone know anything about Nolasco? Marlins fans seem to really dislike him.

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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #73: November 13, 2012, 08:31:03 PM »
RT @AndyGlockner: The Marlins got $409M in public funding (on false pretense) that will cost the city $2.4 BILLION to pay off. #jail

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Re: Marlins trade franchise to Blue Jays
« Reply #74: November 13, 2012, 08:33:42 PM »
Nolasco and Stanton, come on down!

Or just Stanton... and Greinke. lololol