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Offline zimm_da_kid

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Trades with other leagues
« Topic Start: October 28, 2012, 11:13:11 PM »
what if MLB allowed teams to trade players to teams in other leagues.  It could even be sort of like the transfer system in soccer, where you can loan a player to a team in another league.  It could work with Japan, Korea, and Cuba (if only...).  I don't think the players would like it at all and the union would have a fit about it, but it would be great to see. 

Baseball is starting to gain some ground internationally.  The WBC has certainly helped and once more countries turn to baseball, this could be a plausible idea.  Sadly, It will be at least 50 years or so until anything like this ever happens, if ever.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #1: October 28, 2012, 11:15:39 PM »
No. Besides, other than the occasional Yu-type super pitcher, most Asian players are inferior to MLBers.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #2: October 29, 2012, 12:08:24 AM »
This will never happen, ever. Why would the MLBPA ever sign off on this?

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #3: October 29, 2012, 02:24:30 AM »
This will never happen, ever. Why would the MLBPA ever sign off on this?

Exactly. Imagine Tyler Moore in Japan.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #4: October 29, 2012, 04:29:31 AM »
This will never happen, ever. Why would the MLBPA ever sign off on this?

And why would the Nipon teams want players with mlb contracts (ie mlbpa work rules?)

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #5: October 29, 2012, 09:42:01 AM »
It works for soccer.  I'm just saying that eventually (ie 50-100 years or more) this might be plausible.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #6: October 29, 2012, 10:17:23 AM »
It works for soccer.  I'm just saying that eventually (ie 50-100 years or more) this might be plausible.

But I think it works well in soccer because there are multiple high-level leagues across the globe - where for baseball the MLB is the highest level of competition globally. That doesn't outright stop trades of course, teams of unequal competition will trade with each other for mutual benefit, but I don't think that many of the players that play in the MLB would really be happy if they were traded to Japan in a trade. Not all of them, but most of them.

Now if our cultures were a bit closer than I'd probably make an argument for it but from what I have read transitioning to life in Japan as an American baseball player can be extremely difficult and lonely. I would imagine that the transition for Japanese players coming to the US is just as difficult. Probably even more tough for players who have families. So there's a personal aspect that'll be tough on the traded player.

When baseball develops good, global competition - which I don't see happening anytime soon - then trading globally will be great. Until then, no.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #7: October 29, 2012, 11:59:54 AM »
Who would want to get traded to Cuba?

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #8: October 29, 2012, 12:14:58 PM »
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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #9: October 29, 2012, 03:45:11 PM »
No. Besides, other than the occasional Yu-type super pitcher, most Asian players are inferior to MLBers.

I think most Nippon Pro pitchers come over at an age when they are already acclimated to the HUGE strikezones of Japan.  Here, we actually have a strikezone.  They also have a smaller and less smooth ball.  This Tanaka kid is 23 and most of the "bad teaching" can be undone.

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Re: Trades with other leagues
« Reply #10: October 30, 2012, 01:20:14 AM »
Right on the money.  It's only very recently where a major north american sport got some serious international competition (KHL vs NHL, and let's not even go there about whether or not the NHL is still a "major" sport).  There are some big basketball leagues in Europe and South America, but nothing even remotely close to the NBA.  Baseball, throwball, not even close (much as I like the CFL and Asian baseball). 

Love it or hate it, football/soccer really is the ONLY legit global team sport.

But I think it works well in soccer because there are multiple high-level leagues across the globe - where for baseball the MLB is the highest level of competition globally. That doesn't outright stop trades of course, teams of unequal competition will trade with each other for mutual benefit, but I don't think that many of the players that play in the MLB would really be happy if they were traded to Japan in a trade. Not all of them, but most of them.

Now if our cultures were a bit closer than I'd probably make an argument for it but from what I have read transitioning to life in Japan as an American baseball player can be extremely difficult and lonely. I would imagine that the transition for Japanese players coming to the US is just as difficult. Probably even more tough for players who have families. So there's a personal aspect that'll be tough on the traded player.

When baseball develops good, global competition - which I don't see happening anytime soon - then trading globally will be great. Until then, no.