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Who would you rather keep?

Adam LaRoche
68 (60.7%)
Michael Morse
44 (39.3%)

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Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1025: January 16, 2013, 10:11:09 AM »
I still think Ramos takes over at catcher full time... it might take a month though.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1026: January 16, 2013, 10:13:43 AM »
it's a good thing we have Davey.

Ramos- I lost my starting job and you cost me millions in arbitration
Storen - I lost my position and you cost me millions in arbitration
Morse- I lost my starting job and you cost me millions in free agency

Davey- don't worry?

not sure that works

Offline Kevrock

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1027: January 16, 2013, 10:20:00 AM »
There's no way Ramos is going to be embittered. He got injured and will be getting the job back when he's ready.

I doubt Morse has the personality for it, but I also doubt he's on the roster come opening day.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1028: January 16, 2013, 10:21:11 AM »
There's no way Ramos is going to be embittered. He got injured and will be getting the job back when he's ready.

then swap Ramos for Suzuki when that happens

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1029: January 16, 2013, 10:24:46 AM »
These are good problems to have.  Too many good players and not enough playing time.  It will be OK.

Also, neither the Nats nor any team should cater to individual players like that (as a general rule - maybe you make exceptions in certain cases, but not for the Wilson Ramos/Mike Morse/Drew Storen level players).

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1030: January 16, 2013, 10:27:30 AM »
Also, neither the Nats nor any team should cater to individual players like that (as a general rule - maybe you make exceptions in certain cases, but not for the Wilson Ramos/Mike Morse/Drew Storen level players).

So if laroche slumps out of the gate Morse will start at first?

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1031: January 16, 2013, 10:28:37 AM »
So if laroche slumps out of the gate Morse will start at first?

How did you get to this question from what I wrote?

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1032: January 16, 2013, 10:32:37 AM »
How did you get to this question from what I wrote?

if you're not catering to players and if everyone should be happy with their playing time, Morse and LaRoche (similar skills sets) should expect that who ever is hot will start, or do you only not cater to certain players?

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1033: January 16, 2013, 10:35:24 AM »
if you're not catering to players and if everyone should be happy with their playing time, Morse and LaRoche (similar skills sets) should expect that who ever is hot will start, or do you only not cater to certain players?

Teams should (generally) not determine playing time based on a specific player's salary interests.

If you think doing what you suggest, alternating Morse/LaRoche, is the best way to win baseball games and win the WS, then I guess you do that.  I suspect that Davey does not think that is the best way to win.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1034: January 16, 2013, 10:37:41 AM »
Alternating isn't the best way, but having players on the bench bitter about playing time doesn't help either.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1035: January 16, 2013, 10:39:10 AM »
Alternating isn't the best way, but having players on the bench bitter about playing time doesn't help either.

I think the benefit of having better players on the bench outweighs any potential negative of having too many good players. 

Offline SkinsNDeacs

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1036: January 16, 2013, 03:05:15 PM »
I come to you with more info...

I am hearing Morse to As for AJ Cole and 2 prospects.  From the same guy that told me about Laroche.   

Offline Rasta

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1037: January 16, 2013, 03:08:49 PM »
I come to you with more info...

I am hearing Morse to As for AJ Cole and 2 prospects.  From the same guy that told me about Laroche.   

Holy crap.  I'd like to see who the prospects are because Cole doesn't excite me too much any longer.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1038: January 16, 2013, 03:38:53 PM »
I come to you with more info...

I am hearing Morse to As for AJ Cole and 2 prospects.  From the same guy that told me about Laroche.   

Thanks for the heads up.  Tell your buddy to not accept any more HRod-types from the A's. 

Offline zoom

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1039: January 16, 2013, 03:40:31 PM »
i didn't realize Cole struggled so much, in High A, last year.

Offline WerthHisWeight

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1040: January 16, 2013, 03:54:51 PM »
AJ Cole and two prospects?  Isn't that the same thing as three prospects?  The Beast better be worth more than that.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1041: January 16, 2013, 04:06:39 PM »
I come to you with more info...

I am hearing Morse to As for AJ Cole and 2 prospects.  From the same guy that told me about Laroche.   

This would be hilarious but still a good move.  Cole is still a top 100 prospect with frontline upside.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1042: January 16, 2013, 04:09:45 PM »
Rizzo and the Nats coaching staff probably know Cole as well as anyone, if he wants him back, I trust him fully on it

Offline mitlen

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1043: January 16, 2013, 04:12:20 PM »
AJ Cole and two prospects?  Isn't that the same thing as three prospects?  The Beast better be worth more than that.

Strikes me the same way.

Offline welch

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1044: January 16, 2013, 04:38:17 PM »
AJ Cole and two prospects?  Isn't that the same thing as three prospects?  The Beast better be worth more than that.

- Cole
- Norris
- Peacock

Three prospects.

Offline mitlen

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1045: January 16, 2013, 04:41:46 PM »
- Cole
- Norris
- Peacock

Three prospects.

Karma

Offline madj55

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1046: January 16, 2013, 04:49:28 PM »
With Werth around I don't think there will be any bad clubhouse chemistry.

Offline mitlen

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1047: January 16, 2013, 04:53:59 PM »
With Werth around I don't think there will be any bad clubhouse chemistry.

I think Harper will add to that dynamic this year as well.    He's Werth's wingman.

Offline WerthHisWeight

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1048: January 16, 2013, 05:02:34 PM »
I think Harper will add to that dynamic this year as well.    He's Werth's wingman.

Dunno about that.  I could see cocky Harper starting to grate on some of the guys, particularly when they are struggling.  He also tends to do dumb stuff when he's upset with himself.  That's not exactly a stabilizing influence in the clubhouse.

Werth and Laroche are more likely to be the alkaline in the clubhouse.

Offline mitlen

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Re: Morse or LaRoche
« Reply #1049: January 16, 2013, 05:10:27 PM »
Dunno about that.  I could see cocky Harper starting to grate on some of the guys, particularly when they are struggling.  He also tends to do dumb stuff when he's upset with himself.  That's not exactly a stabilizing influence in the clubhouse.

Werth and Laroche are more likely to be the alkaline in the clubhouse.

My sources say  ...   :)    Just a feeling that Harper sees Werth like a "big brother" at this phase of his career.    Occasionally, "crazy arrogance" ain't a bad thing.