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Offline Kevrock

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #125: December 10, 2012, 03:03:21 PM »
So does Tampa have enough pitching to deal us Price next offseason?

Why would anyone want to deal with Tampa?

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #126: December 10, 2012, 05:13:58 PM »
Why would anyone want to deal with Tampa?

True, it seems they want a "win-lose" deal every time, as opposed to a "win-win".

Not nearly as easy to deal with as Billy Beane is.   

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #127: December 10, 2012, 05:17:25 PM »
Why would anyone want to deal with Tampa?

Especially when you can deal with Minnesota

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #128: December 10, 2012, 06:43:57 PM »
So does Tampa have enough pitching to deal us Price next offseason?

no chance we have the resources to get price

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #129: December 11, 2012, 08:41:06 AM »
The Rays have let some good relievers walk (Benoit, Soriano, Balfour).  Those were not trades and were high priced, but if you value relievers more highly than some of the saber types, you have to say that there can be gems in their cast offs.   

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #130: December 11, 2012, 06:36:53 PM »

Holy Crap

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The Yankees have reached agreement with Kevin Youkilis on a one-year, $12MM deal, according to Ken Rosenthal

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/yankees-sign-kevin-youkilis.html#ABmQOTBPbVRBWSyj.99


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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #132: December 11, 2012, 08:57:12 PM »
Indians-Reds-Dbacks trade just went down.

Choo to the Reds to play CF. Drew Stubbs and a DBacks pitcher to Cleveland, and SS Didi Gregorius and 2B Jason Donald going to Arizona.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #133: December 11, 2012, 09:05:14 PM »
Donald is actually headed to Cinci. Unless the D-Backs get something else other than just Didi, they got screwed. Didi is not worth Bauer or Corbin straight up IMO.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #134: December 11, 2012, 09:13:44 PM »
Bauer to Indians. Good trade for them.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #135: December 11, 2012, 09:15:24 PM »
Kevin Towers seems to be an idiot. Every proposed trade that has been tossed around this offseason involving the Diamondbacks has them being the loser; this one is no different. Oh well, I guess he'll finally get his coveted shortstop.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #136: December 11, 2012, 09:15:41 PM »
Surprised the DBacks didn't hold out for Cabrera if they're giving up on Bauer.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #137: December 11, 2012, 09:18:21 PM »
Surprised the DBacks didn't hold out for Cabrera if they're giving up on Bauer.

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4:52pm: The Diamondbacks would much prefer getting Gregorius back from the Indians instead of Cabrera in exchange for young pitching, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #138: December 11, 2012, 09:18:46 PM »
That's silly on their part.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #139: December 11, 2012, 09:28:05 PM »
That's silly on their part.
Why? Is Didi not very good? Because Asdrubal is just average and signed short-term.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #140: December 11, 2012, 09:35:21 PM »
Why? Is Didi not very good? Because Asdrubal is just average and signed short-term.

The past two years, Cabrera has the second highest OPS of any SS in baseball. Since 2009, he's got the 5th highest OPS.

Gregorius has a career line of .271/.323/.376/.699 in 5 years of minor league ball. In 1909 career PA's he has 118 BB's.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #141: December 11, 2012, 10:03:32 PM »
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121211&content_id=40619288&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

Indians acquire four players from Cincinnati and Arizona

RHP Trevor Bauer, OF Drew Stubbs, RHP Matt Albers & RHP Bryan Shaw Joining Cleveland



 CLEVELAND, OH - The Cleveland Indians today announced the club has acquired four players in a three-team trade involving the Indians, Cincinnati Reds and Arizona Diamondbacks.
 
Today, the Indians received RHP TREVOR BAUER, RHP MATT ALBERS and RHP BRYAN SHAW from the Diamondbacks and OF DREW STUBBS from the Reds in exchange for OF SHIN-SOO CHOO, INF JASON DONALD, LHP TONY SIPP, INF LARS ANDERSON and cash considerations.  Choo, Donald and cash are being sent to Cincinnati while Sipp, Anderson and INF Didi Gregorius (from CIN) are now members of the Arizona Diamondbacks.
 
Bauer, 21, was the third overall selection by Arizona in the 2011 First-Year Player Draft out of UCLA after winning the 2011 Golden Spikes Award and National Player of the Year [1,2].  Named the 9th overall prospect in Minor League Baseball [1] entering 2012, Trevor spent most of the 2012 season between Double-A Mobile and Triple-A Reno where he went a combined 12-2 with a 2.42 ERA in 22 starts (130.1IP, 107H, 35ER, 61BB, 157K, 223AVG) and averaged 10.8 strikeouts per 9.0IP.  He also became the first member of the 2011 draft to appear in the big leagues ahead of Indians RHP Cody Allen, making four starts for the Diamondbacks in July. In his brief Minor League career he owns an ERA of 3.00 in 156.0 innings of work (134H, 52ER, 73BB, 200K, .229AVG) while fanning 11.5 batters per 9.0IP.
 
Stubbs, 28, has appeared in parts of 4 Major League seasons with the Reds since 2009 after being selected in the first round (8th overall) of the 2006 draft, batting .241 (431-1791) with 59HR, 178RBI, 110SB, 285 runs (.312OBP/.386SLG) in 486 career games. The right-handed hitter has also posted a career .276 (127-460) avg./.821 OPS vs. left-handed pitching. Stubbs recorded at least 30 stolen bases for the 3rd consecutive season in 2012, becoming one of just 6 Major League players to do so over the span since 2010 (Bourn, Crisp, R. Davis, J. Reyes, B.J. Upton).  With 40 steals in 2011, Stubbs became the first Reds player to reach that threshold since Deion Sanders swiped 56 bags in 1997. Defensively, the University of Texas product has appeared exclusively in center field in 481 career games (24 outfield assists).
 
Albers, 29, split the 2012 season between the Boston Red Sox and Arizona, going a combined 3-1 with a 2.39ERA in 63 relief appearances (60.1IP, 46H, 16ER, 22BB, 44K, .215AVG).  Over Matt’s final 11 outings with the D-Backs in September he posted an ERA of 1.80 (10.0IP, 9H, 2R/ER, 9K). On the year with Boston and Arizona he limited left-handed batters to a .207 (17-82) average against.  The Houston, TX native was a 23rd round pick of the Astros in 2001 and debuted with his hometown team in 2006. He was traded to Baltimore prior to the 2008 season and after a successful stint in Boston in 2011-12 he was acquired by Arizona at the trading deadline for LHP Craig Breslow.
 
Shaw, 25, spent most of the 2012 season in the Arizona bullpen where he went 1-6 with 2 saves and a 3.49ERA in 64 relief appearances (59.1IP, 60H, 23ER, 4HR, 24BB, 41K, .273AVG). The Livermore, CA native also spent two weeks in Triple-A Reno in July and August, posting an ERA of 2.25 in 8 outings (8.0IP, 6H, 2R/ER, 10K, .207AVG). Shaw began his pro career in 2008 after the second round selection by Arizona out of Long Beach State (CA).  He debuted with the D-Backs in June 2011 and owns a two-year career Major League record of 2-6 with a 3.18ERA in 97 relief outings (87.2IP, 90H, 31ER, 65K).

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #142: December 11, 2012, 10:07:34 PM »
Kevin Towers is a fool.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #143: December 11, 2012, 10:14:16 PM »
Did Arizona really just give up Bauer and Shaw for Didi Gregorius?  :lmao:

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #144: December 11, 2012, 11:56:31 PM »
Towers says that Didi reminds him a young Jeter. :lmao: Arizona is being silly. I don't think Towers has any sort of cohesive plan.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #145: December 12, 2012, 12:42:29 AM »
The Red Sox were supposed to introduce Mike Napoli today, they postponed the press conference and the signing is still not official.

Hmmmm.....

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #146: December 12, 2012, 06:47:21 AM »
Towers is an idiot.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #147: December 12, 2012, 08:24:26 AM »
The Red Sox were supposed to introduce Mike Napoli today, they postponed the press conference and the signing is still not official.

Hmmmm.....

Several national reporters claim there were problems on his physical.  Cherington gave a "no comment" on whether his physical identified problems monday.  They also have 39 men on the 40 man roster before adding Napoli, Uehara, and Victorino, and I'm not even sure that counts another player claimed off waivers.  So, it could be due to just roster shuffling and delays in making announcements, it could be because there is something they don't like in his physical (after all, they didn't like Haren's hip :roll: ), or it could be something else.  This may be why Minty mentioned in the ALR thread that the Sox may still be in on ALR.

I'm not sure ALR would be productive offensively for them, but they do need someone who hits RHP to balance out Gomes and Victorino.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #149: December 12, 2012, 10:35:26 AM »
the red sox are still interested in Nick Swisher - potentially a fallback option if Napoli doesn't work out.