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Offline DPMOmaha

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Non-Nats Offseason news
« Topic Start: October 20, 2012, 04:21:02 PM »
3 way:

A's get Chris Young from Arizona
Arizona gets Heath Bell
Miami gets prospects.

I think I have this right...

clarkspencer ‏@clarkspencer
#marlins trade Heath Bell and cash to Arizona in 3-team deal with A's in which Miami receives minor league infielder Yordy Cabrera from Oak

Arizona Diamondbacks ‏@Dbacks
Team acquires INF Cliff Pennington and INF Yordy Cabrera from @Athletics for OF Chris Young @CY24_7 and cash considerations

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #1: October 20, 2012, 04:25:32 PM »
Chris Young is a very good player.  Beane did well.  Probably makes Coco Crisp trade bait.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #2: October 20, 2012, 05:20:24 PM »
Smith, Gomes, Kottaras, and I think Barton are all not guaranteed for next year.  For now, they could go with their 3 best defenders among Crisp,  Cespedes, Young, and Reddick and have the other one DH.  I'm guessing Gomes can walk, Barton may be non-tendered, Kottaras is possibly tendered until they get a better option than a Kottaras / Norris
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and Smith is likely tendered to be a back up.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #3: October 20, 2012, 05:45:45 PM »
Billy Beane doing work

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #4: October 20, 2012, 05:56:08 PM »
Billy Beane doing work

TIL Slateman is Linty's sockpuppet account.  Or maybe the other way around :lol:

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #5: October 20, 2012, 06:21:03 PM »
Smith, Gomes, Kottaras, and I think Barton are all not guaranteed for next year.  For now, they could go with their 3 best defenders among Crisp,  Cespedes, Young, and Reddick and have the other one DH.  I'm guessing Gomes can walk, Barton may be non-tendered, Kottaras is possibly tendered until they get a better option than a Kottaras / Norris
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and Smith is likely tendered to be a back up. 

Crisp wouldn't be a very good DH.  If I had to pick 5 guys, I'd pick Cespedes, Young, and Reddick as starters with Gomes and Smith as the backups.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #6: October 20, 2012, 06:21:26 PM »
I don't know, how long as Linty been liking Beane? Has he ever met him?

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #7: October 20, 2012, 06:25:58 PM »
Crisp wouldn't be a very good DH.  If I had to pick 5 guys, I'd pick Cespedes, Young, and Reddick as starters with Gomes and Smith as the backups.

You are right, but I kind of think he would be one of the defensive players.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #8: October 20, 2012, 06:32:20 PM »
I don't know, how long as Linty been liking Beane? Has he ever met him?

It was the combination of Beane-love and "doing work".

You'd have to ask Linty about those qualifications.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #9: October 20, 2012, 07:07:02 PM »
I've been a fan of Beane for over ten years now. Even met him before.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #10: October 20, 2012, 07:08:10 PM »
Answer that from the wrong account? ;)

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #11: October 20, 2012, 07:10:58 PM »
How much of Bell's contract did Miami eat?

*EDIT* $8 million of the $21 million owed. $6.5 million over two years is still a lot for an aging reliever with heavily declining skills. Don't really like from Arizona's perspective, especially if they keep Putz and have Bell set up. That's a lot to pay him when they already have David Hernandez.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #12: October 20, 2012, 07:29:21 PM »
Rnice pic up by beane

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #13: October 20, 2012, 08:15:20 PM »
Marlins dump Bell and A's get 500k and Chris Young.

I'm going to go ahead and say that the D-Backs didn't win this one.  However, if Bell pitches well, Dbacks could be a threat. Bullpen was an issue for them last season.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #14: October 20, 2012, 08:16:59 PM »
Marlins dump Bell and A's get 500k and Chris Young.

I'm going to go ahead and say that the D-Backs didn't win this one.  However, if Bell pitches well, Dbacks could be a threat. Bullpen was an issue for them last season.

Where's Putz going?

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #15: October 20, 2012, 08:35:00 PM »
They exercised Putz's 2013 option today, per Cots

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #16: October 20, 2012, 11:25:24 PM »
Bell can set up. Putz can close. If Bell finds his form, that's a strong back end of the pen. And they have a ton of starting pitching available. Pennington plays great defense at short, which is important given how many ground ball pitchers they have.

Arizona has a good GM. I think this trade may work out for them.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #17: October 20, 2012, 11:28:52 PM »
Farrell to the Red Sox, no word on details.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #18: October 21, 2012, 12:21:02 AM »
Farrell to the Red Sox, no word on details.
Toronto gets Mike Aviles.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #19: October 21, 2012, 12:30:16 AM »
Sabathia heading to see Dr. Andrews for elbow issues per Brian Cashman (reported on MLB TV a few minutes ago).

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #20: October 21, 2012, 12:33:01 AM »
Sabathia heading to see Dr. Andrews for elbow issues per Brian Cashman (reported on MLB TV a few minutes ago).
It's supposedly a mild bone spur that won't be a big deal, but elbow issues are never good. CC has even said that he's worried about it.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #21: October 21, 2012, 09:24:52 AM »
Red Sox also get Adam Lind

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #22: October 21, 2012, 09:38:09 AM »
Bell can set up. Putz can close. If Bell finds his form, that's a strong back end of the pen. And they have a ton of starting pitching available. Pennington plays great defense at short, which is important given how many ground ball pitchers they have.

Arizona has a good GM. I think this trade may work out for them.

Really?  This was a a terrible move for Arizona to me.  They're spending like $7 mil a year on Heath Bell.  And they have him for 2 years.  Would you sign Heath Bell, with the kind of year he just had, to that kind of a contract if he were a free agent?  If Rizzo did that for the Nats, I'd be pretty damn mad about it.

Plus he gave up a decent center fielder and only got in return a no-hit, all-glove shortstop - those guys are usually available every year in free agency.

They should have done a lot better in trading Chris Young.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #23: October 21, 2012, 09:58:25 AM »
Plus Arizona already has a great set-up man in David Hernandez.

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Re: Non-Nats Offseason news
« Reply #24: October 21, 2012, 12:38:37 PM »
So, essentially, they brought in Bell for the same role Ryan Mattheus or Christian Garcia serves, if he's just a bridge to Hernandez.  That's a lot for a middle guy, no matter how good he was.