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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #25: October 23, 2012, 03:47:28 PM »
I would prefer it if Viagra sponsored an award for a guy who kept a job in the majors but performed terribly.  That could call it the "Stay a Stiff" award.


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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #26: October 23, 2012, 03:55:12 PM »
"go long"

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #27: October 24, 2012, 12:41:38 PM »
Davey Johnson named NL MoY by the Sporting News (Is there another award issued by MLB?)

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #28: October 24, 2012, 12:43:20 PM »
Davey Johnson named NL MoY by the Sporting News (Is there another award issued by MLB?)

Yeah the Sporting News isn't official, it's voted on by players/managers I believe.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #29: October 24, 2012, 06:10:49 PM »
Sowho are MLB awards voted on by?

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #30: October 24, 2012, 06:26:45 PM »
Baseball writers association of america. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #31: October 24, 2012, 07:01:17 PM »
Then we're doomed.  No. Large body of writers likes Dc sports.  If they do then they are ridiculed  for being "homers"  by a-holes like skip Bayless and Steven Smith.  The Strasburg Shutdown will come back to bite us (no matter how much I agree it was the best thing to do)

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #32: October 24, 2012, 07:03:15 PM »
There isn't a single thing that these awards will do to help us win 100 games next season. Nothing to see here. ;)
Then we're doomed.  No. Large body of writers likes Dc sports.  If they do then they are ridiculed  for being "homers"  by a-holes like skip Bayless and Steven Smith.  The Strasburg Shutdown will come back to bite us (no matter how much I agree it was the best thing to do)


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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #33: October 24, 2012, 07:04:59 PM »
No but our Managers and our players deserve awards!  Incentive to excel!

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #34: October 29, 2012, 12:37:20 PM »
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 Ian Desmond and Adam LaRoche have been named finalists to win the Gold Glove. Awards announced tomorrow night.

No Espi or Zimm?

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #35: October 29, 2012, 01:18:53 PM »
Ian Desmond and "Gold Glove" are two phrases I'd never expect to see in the same sentence.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #36: October 29, 2012, 01:31:17 PM »
It would be rewarding a great offensive if Desmond won a fielding award beyond "webgems." 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #37: October 29, 2012, 01:35:38 PM »
because devensive metrics are totally reliable

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #38: October 29, 2012, 01:35:53 PM »
Golden Glove really goes to a prominent offensive player at a position who makes several high profile defensive without an inordinate amount of errors.  The Derek Jeter award.  Clint Barmes need not apply.  Brandon Crawford could win it next year given his profile in the post season, but if the voting was done before the post season, that will not factor.


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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #39: October 29, 2012, 01:37:16 PM »
I expect desmond to win it

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #40: October 29, 2012, 01:37:31 PM »
because devensive metrics are totally reliable

actually, UZR liked his defense.  Also, his RZR was better than Barmes, Cozart, and Crawford.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #41: October 29, 2012, 01:39:32 PM »
I expect desmond to win it

the Derek Jeter award.  I agree he'll likely win the GG.  I'll take the Fielding Bible award.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #42: October 29, 2012, 05:18:37 PM »
It would be funny if the worst of the Nats infielders, defensively, won the award for best fielding at his position.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #43: October 29, 2012, 08:11:38 PM »
When did Desmond kick your dog?  Ha.

fangraphs link

Fangraphs has him about 10th going by UZR and a little higher in UZR/150 since he missed a few games.  Probably not deserving of a defensive award but the GG basically has become about offense as much as defense.

I'm happy for him.  Cut his errors in half and doubled his offensive production. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #44: October 29, 2012, 08:20:12 PM »
Probably not deserving of a defensive award


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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #45: October 29, 2012, 08:26:17 PM »
Well, the media is going to want to throw some awards the Nats way, so some of the prominent guys will probably draw support.  desi is kind of the face of the year over year improvement in the team in the field (in contrast to the Harper story line, which is the new face story).  Desi deservedly has admirers.  He was an all star player / manager selection, and is the acknowledged leader, and did not let pressure moments get to him too often. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #46: October 29, 2012, 08:35:38 PM »
Well, the media is going to want to throw some awards the Nats way, so some of the prominent guys will probably draw support.  desi is kind of the face of the year over year improvement in the team in the field (in contrast to the Harper story line, which is the new face story).  Desi deservedly has admirers.  He was an all star player / manager selection, and is the acknowledged leader, and did not let pressure moments get to him too often. 

Yet you were not asked if Desmond kicked your dog.

Go figure.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #47: October 29, 2012, 08:44:23 PM »
Yet you were not asked if Desmond kicked your dog.

Go figure.

I thought I made a positive comment there. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #48: October 29, 2012, 08:45:14 PM »
Golden Glove is not really a defensive award - as noted by JCA and by me in post where you cut out everything but about 5 words.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #49: October 29, 2012, 09:51:43 PM »
Golden Glove is not really a defensive award - as noted by JCA and by me in post where you cut out everything but about 5 words.

Pointing out that he's the worst defender on a great infield does not mean he "kicked my dog."

It's just the truth.