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Offline imref

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End of Season Awards - 2012
« Topic Start: October 19, 2012, 01:17:17 PM »
And here they come...

AL Comeback player of the year: Fernando Rodney
NL Comeback player of the year: Buster Posey

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #1: October 19, 2012, 01:38:32 PM »
Dunn got robbed.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #2: October 19, 2012, 02:05:25 PM »
He never gets any respect.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #3: October 19, 2012, 02:29:13 PM »
Oh what garbage. Dunn deserved it.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #4: October 19, 2012, 02:32:46 PM »
Rodney broke the ERA record, whereas Adam Dunn almost broke the strikeout record.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #5: October 19, 2012, 02:33:32 PM »
Dunn got robbed.

I actually think Alex Rios deserved it more than Dunn, but if not Rios, then Dunn. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #6: October 19, 2012, 02:39:55 PM »
what did rodney come back from?  being mediocre his whole career?

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #7: October 19, 2012, 02:55:35 PM »
 
what did rodney come back from?  being mediocre his whole career?

Yeah, maybe a "most improved" vs. comeback award.  He hasn't had a sub 3.00 ERA since 2006.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #8: October 19, 2012, 02:56:55 PM »
lol should've been dunn

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #9: October 19, 2012, 03:00:06 PM »
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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #10: October 19, 2012, 03:02:38 PM »
I'm all of those.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #11: October 19, 2012, 03:09:28 PM »
Comeback player of the year is a bogus award.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #12: October 19, 2012, 03:20:18 PM »
Comeback player of the year is a bogus award.

Well yeah, but that doesn't mean we can't argue about who deserves it :D

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #13: October 19, 2012, 09:16:39 PM »
Dunn got robbed.

Yeah I posted as much in the Adam Dunn Thread.  He got a Delivery Man award!  Fine let him win a Pitcher's award!  I think Dunn had the worst avg in the league last year.  I agree with CHIEF!  DUNN WAS ROBBED!

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #14: October 20, 2012, 11:58:04 AM »
I also posted in the Dunn thread.  Unfortunately for Dunn, his batting average still stunk (.204), and his OPS was barely over .800.  This year really does not compare favorably to either of his years with the Nats in terms of offense.  He tailed off after the All Star game (.729 OPS).

Rodney had an amazing year by any traditional measure and most advanced ones. Personally, I view him as a never was, so I don't think it meets my idea of a "comeback."  Also, he might not even have been the best reliever in his own bullpen (Jake McGee has a case on FIP). 

Oh, as for the "Delivery man of the year" award?  There's also a DH award - the Edgar Martinez Award.  Dunn does not get that, either.

Chief / Cal - I'm surprised you two just didn't make your best argument - WAR improvement.  Dunn went from -3.0 to 1.7, an improvement of 4.7 WAR, while Rodney went from -0.2 to 2.4.  :lol:

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #15: October 20, 2012, 12:34:19 PM »
Im not much into all that stuff.  I DO know that he went from about 11 Hrs to over 30!

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #16: October 20, 2012, 12:43:59 PM »
Im not much into all that stuff.  I DO know that he went from about 11 Hrs to over 30!

41.  But he had a mediocre 2d half of the year. 

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #18: October 23, 2012, 10:19:21 AM »
uh, so did LaRoche

Posey deserved it though.


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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #20: October 23, 2012, 02:27:59 PM »
uhhh...

so imref, either you were mistaken or we all seriously misinterpreted your vague OP.

Or that link is wrong.  I'm not leaving out any possibilities this time :lol:

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #21: October 23, 2012, 02:28:49 PM »
uhhh...

so imref, either you were mistaken or we all seriously misinterpreted your vague OP.

Or that link is wrong.  I'm not leaving out any possibilities this time :lol:

The Sporting News award is not the same as the "official" MLB award. The Sporting News has been doing their "unofficial" award since the 1960's. The MLB one has only been around a few years, as blue pointed out, as a plug for Viagra.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #22: October 23, 2012, 02:33:17 PM »
That viagra tidbit combined with the fact that there are multiple versions of this award really make it seem...  well, stupid.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #23: October 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM »
The comeback player of the year award is stupid any way you slice it.

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Re: End of Season Awards - 2012
« Reply #24: October 23, 2012, 03:20:19 PM »
I would prefer it if Viagra sponsored an award for a guy who kept a job in the majors but performed terribly.  That could call it the "Stay a Stiff" award.