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Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #100: June 06, 2013, 11:45:58 PM »
maybe he needs TJ surgery?

probably

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #101: June 06, 2013, 11:45:59 PM »
hmm. He was rated 182 on BA's Top 500.

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#Nationals first pick is RHP Jake Johansen. Triple digits but can't throw strikes. Reliever. Bit of a head scratcher here. #mlbdraft

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #102: June 06, 2013, 11:48:25 PM »
SMH. I don't get this pick.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #103: June 06, 2013, 11:50:22 PM »
Kind of odd. He started this year for Dallas Baptist U. He posted a 5.40 ERA though the team has as a whole posted only a 4.93 ERA.

Jake Johansen's numbers in 2013: 88.1 IP 109 H 53 ER 26 BB 75 K 7 WP 7 HBP (7-6, 5.40 ERA)

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #104: June 06, 2013, 11:52:54 PM »
#InRizzoWeTrust

am I right?!?!  am I right??!?!

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #105: June 06, 2013, 11:53:40 PM »
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ESPN's Keith Law had Johansen as No. 66-ranked talent in his Top 100. Seems like most draft experts expect him to be a reliever in pro ball.

Fast moving reliever? I don't know. I'm interested to see what Rizzo has to say about him. Maybe cost savings for a later pick?

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #106: June 06, 2013, 11:54:52 PM »
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Jake Johansen is the 6th oldest college player in BA's top 250. Born 1/23/91 and was a redshirt junior. #Nats

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #107: June 06, 2013, 11:55:26 PM »
un.freaking.believable.

Rizzo has a hard-on for useless, hard-throwing relievers.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #108: June 07, 2013, 12:01:51 AM »
There may be something in his mechanics they believe they can fix? We'll see  guess.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #109: June 07, 2013, 12:02:20 AM »
"@masnKolko: Kris Kline on Johansen: "If you put him next to (Lucas) Giolito, you have some pretty good bookends." #Nats view him as a starter."

"@masnKerr: #Nats say Johansen has delivery similar to Josh beckett and profiles as a starter"

"@masnKerr: They brought Johansen into D.C. this week to have Rizzo watch him throw. #Nats believe with proper instruction they "have a gem""

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #110: June 07, 2013, 12:30:47 AM »
I don't know anything about Dallas Baptist but college stats aren't the best way to judge. Terrible fields, possibly poor teammates, and aluminum bats can't really throw things out of whack.

He had a 3/1 k/bb ratio and walked 26 in 88 innings. That's better than 'can't throw strikes.'

He was also rated as the 56th best college player entering the year by one site, so there is some history of bing hyped. I definitely think there may be some thinking of spreading the cash around to get some talent with other picks.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #111: June 07, 2013, 12:54:40 AM »
I don't know anything about Dallas Baptist but college stats aren't the best way to judge. Terrible fields, possibly poor teammates, and aluminum bats can't really throw things out of whack.

He had a 3/1 k/bb ratio and walked 26 in 88 innings. That's better than 'can't throw strikes.'

He was also rated as the 56th best college player entering the year by one site, so there is some history of bing hyped. I definitely think there may be some thinking of spreading the cash around to get some talent with other picks.

They play in the WAC for baseball but will be moving to the Missouri Valley next season. They play a lot of Big 12 type teams in the midweek.  They've been on the cusp of breaking through in recent years and made it to a super regional in 2011.  It's a pretty good program, it's possible he's one of the two or three best players in program history though.  They've only been at D1 for about a decade, maybe a little less.


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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #113: June 07, 2013, 01:02:02 AM »
at least he'll likely be a quick sign

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #114: June 07, 2013, 07:40:19 AM »
"We know he doesn't have good numbers," Clark said. "If he had good numbers, he wouldn't have gotten out of the Top Ten. Our guys feel like that there are a couple of things, easy fixes. We feel like when we get him signed and turn this kid over to the best player development system in baseball, in our opinion, we think we have a gem."

Love this quote. This makes me feel better about the pick.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #115: June 07, 2013, 07:46:45 AM »
Johansen doesn't overwhelm me but at least he has the raw stuff to potentially develop. I hate low ceiling picks early in the draft. 

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #116: June 07, 2013, 07:51:30 AM »
I'm very surprised that john Denney is still available.  Dude was considered a mid to late first round pick.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #117: June 07, 2013, 08:14:59 AM »
Glockypoo - it does not sound like he's low ceiling.  It sounds more like the ceiling is pretty high but how long of a shot it is to hit it is the question.  Clark thinks he's an easy fix.  BA sounds like they are skeptical, but Law thinks he went in the right spot.   If the ceiling is "just a reliever," then it is pretty low, but the Nats say he can start.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #118: June 07, 2013, 08:19:30 AM »
I think Glockypoo was saying he was happy that they didn't go with a low ceiling guy, as he had mentioned raw stuff to develop. 

I wonder what rounds he was previously drafted in as I see it was his third time being drafted.  Hopefully he will sign quickly. 

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #119: June 07, 2013, 08:24:11 AM »
I think Glockypoo was saying he was happy that they didn't go with a low ceiling guy, as he had mentioned raw stuff to develop. 

I wonder what rounds he was previously drafted in as I see it was his third time being drafted.  Hopefully he will sign quickly. 

Yep.

But my post was pretty poorly worded, so I get why JCA didn't get my point.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #120: June 07, 2013, 08:28:17 AM »
I missed the "he has raw stuff and could develop."  I'm the one who needs to move from this Dragonwell green tea stuff to a nice, caffeine-heavy Ceylon blend.

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #121: June 07, 2013, 08:30:52 AM »
ESPN:

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Johansen is a big, fire-balling right-hander who works as a starter now for Dallas Baptist but will have to improve his off-speed offerings to remain one in pro ball.

He'll sit 95-96 mph and run the fastball as high as 99, getting a little downhill plane but otherwise not much life on the pitch. His curveball at 78-79 is big and sloppy, and his changeup at 88-89 is like a BP cutter, doing hitters something of a favor by backing off the big velocity. There's some effort in his delivery, including a little head-snap at release, and he turns his pitching elbow over very late after a long stride towards the plate, all of which would also point to a future in the bullpen. He's also had pretty lousy results for a guy throwing in the upper 90s, again because of the lack of a second pitch.

I'd send him out as a starter for a year, if only to develop at least one solid second pitch, but if I were betting money on his ultimate role, I'd guess he ends up a setup man or closer.

   PRESENT   FUTURE   LOW(MPH)   HIGH(MPH)
Fastball   70   70   --   --
FB Movement   40   40   --   --
Command   40   45   --   --
Control   45   50   --   --
Curveball   40   45   --   --
Changeup   35   40   --   --
Feel for Pitching   40   45   --   --


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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #122: June 07, 2013, 09:03:42 AM »
Johansen is HRod's replacement

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #123: June 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM »
MLB's Draft Tracker is available (now that no one is on it).

Top Available players after rounds 1 and 2:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2013/drafttracker.jsp#topavailable

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Re: 2013 MLB Draft
« Reply #124: June 07, 2013, 09:34:07 AM »
It's basically impossible to predict what this guy will become anyway. Guys that throw 99 always get a chance it seems.  8)