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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3075: January 01, 2013, 02:07:11 PM »
Buster Olney is ranking positions for teams.  Yesterday was starting rotation, we were second, behind Detroit.  Today is the outfield and...

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2. Washington Nationals
With the acquisition of Denard Span, Washington GM Mike Rizzo finally was able to get the pure center fielder he had been looking for, and now Bryce Harper and Jayson Werth can be committed to the corners for the foreseeable future. The trio is good defensively, but even better offensively, with all three capable of getting on base at a good rate (Werth had a .387 on-base percentage last year, ranking 16th in the majors for hitters with at least 300 plate appearances). It's possible that Span, Werth and Harper could eventually hit 1-2-3 in the Washington lineup.

Something to remember: At age 19, Trout had his struggles early -- before erupting at age 20. Harper had arguably one of the greatest seasons for any 19-year-old, and coming into this year, he will be armed with all the knowledge accumulated last year. He will know that opposing pitchers are going to feed him a steady series of breaking balls. Only two hitters saw a higher percentage last year: Hamilton and Alfonso Soriano.

He will know the pitchers. It's worth noting, again, the steady incline in his performance in the final months of the season. Harper's OPS by month:

May .860
June .779
July .619
August .748
September 1.049

Second??? (behind the Angels)  Really???

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3076: January 01, 2013, 02:24:19 PM »
What's wrong with second place? How much lower would you have rated us? Span plays superb defense and has good batting skills, Werth is solid in right and a pretty much ideal leadoff hitter, and Bryce Harper didn't have "arguably one of the best" seasons for a teenager, he had pretty clearly THE best season for a teenager.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3077: January 01, 2013, 02:30:04 PM »
There's nothing wrong with 2nd.  It's just surprising.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3078: January 01, 2013, 03:22:31 PM »
'If your not in first place your last." - William Shakespeare

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3079: January 01, 2013, 03:45:17 PM »
First in the NL though!

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3080: January 01, 2013, 03:48:58 PM »
Overall I feel that we are undoubtedly the team to beat this year.  We are very well balanced.  We have the best rotation, a top tier lineup, and a well stocked bench.  Our only real weakness is our pen, but that s only if their NLDS woes continue into next year.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3081: January 01, 2013, 03:54:15 PM »
Overall I feel that we are undoubtedly the team to beat this year.  We are very well balanced.  We have the best rotation, a top tier lineup, and a well stocked bench.  Our only real weakness is our pen, but that s only if their NLDS woes continue into next year.

i'm also worried about our SP depth.  If anyone goes down for any length of time we don't have much of a backfill.  Hopefully we can get another Zach Duke type for Syracuse.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3082: January 01, 2013, 04:31:13 PM »
'If your not in first place your last." - William Shakespeare

lol!

I think bullpen depth is an issue too.  Can't count on HRod for anything.  Garcia is an injury risk.  Clippard and Stammen pitched a ton of innings last year, and Clippard a ton the prior year as well.  Don't really know what to expect from Duke.  Bray is a wildcard.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3083: January 01, 2013, 06:44:56 PM »
'If your not in first place your last." - William Shakespeare

Shakespeare can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"?   Perhaps the reporter simply heard Willy speak the phrase and made the error in transcription.    :shrug:

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3084: January 01, 2013, 06:53:22 PM »
Shakespeare can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"?   Perhaps the reporter simply heard Willy speak the phrase and made the error in transcription.    :shrug:
touché :couch:

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3085: January 01, 2013, 07:37:52 PM »
Billy probably would have used "ur".

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3087: January 01, 2013, 07:42:23 PM »
Billy probably would have used "ur".

Or, "would of" used ur. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3088: January 01, 2013, 08:08:49 PM »
ur prolly right...

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3089: January 02, 2013, 01:32:26 PM »
Buster Olney, infields:

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8. Washington Nationals
Within the industry, the expectation is that Washington will eventually re-sign Adam LaRoche -- and if that happens, the Nationals would have a top-five infield, with third baseman Ryan Zimmerman, shortstop Ian Desmond and second baseman Danny Espinosa. Keep in mind, too, that third-base prospect Anthony Rendon, a high-impact hitter taken in the 2011 draft, could advance to the big leagues sometime in 2013, though the presence of Zimmerman makes his future position unclear.

The X factor: LaRoche. He wants a three-year deal; the Nationals have been offering two years. Because Washington gave him a qualifying offer, he is tied to draft-pick compensation, which has scared off some other teams.

I would have rated the infield higher than the outfield.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3090: January 02, 2013, 01:44:46 PM »
Buster Olney, infields:

I would have rated the infield higher than the outfield.

Span Werth Harper - no weakness, three guys with the athletic skills of a center fielder, I would rank our outfield in the top two or three.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3091: January 02, 2013, 01:49:16 PM »
Span Werth Harper - no weakness, three guys with the athletic skills of a center fielder, I would rank our outfield in the top two or three.
Absolutely. In the infield, everybody's rock-solid or an all-star, but there are a couple more question marks than you have in the outfield (Z's arm, ID's ability to repeat, LaR's even being on the team).

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3092: January 02, 2013, 02:21:03 PM »
Trade Rendon and Goodwin for Stanton

Move Werth to first. Trade Morse

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3093: January 02, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
Rendon and Goodwin do not get it done if the prospective Rangers offer revolves around Profar plus Olt/Perez or both.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3094: January 02, 2013, 02:59:04 PM »
Rendon and Goodwin do not get it done if the prospective Rangers offer revolves around Profar plus Olt/Perez or both.

I heard the Rangers were going to use Profar at 2nd and move Kinsler to 1st, so if they trade Profar they are going to need a 1B.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3095: January 02, 2013, 03:08:57 PM »
The trade would drive David Murphy or Nelson Cruz out of the OF, so I imagine Cruz moves to LF and Murphy to 1B?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3096: January 02, 2013, 04:52:12 PM »
Trade Rendon and Goodwin for Stanton

Move Werth to first. Trade Morse

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Why the hell not... let's do this! Zimmerman-Stanton-Harper :az:

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3097: January 02, 2013, 04:59:21 PM »
Why the hell not... let's do this! Zimmerman-Stanton-Harper :az:

Personally, I'd go Stanton-Harper-Zimm.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3098: January 03, 2013, 08:16:54 AM »
Gio is a faux-lefty!


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3099: January 03, 2013, 08:34:47 AM »
Wouldn't want to get a writers cramp and have it affect his lefty grip.