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Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2725: December 06, 2012, 02:18:26 PM »
I think there is a chance Bourn ends up back with the Barves.  Seems like it's either there, the Rangers, or Mariners.  And both the Rangers and Mariners want other guys above Bourn.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2726: December 06, 2012, 02:29:22 PM »
We have a non-Nats offseason moves thread in the out-of-town scoreboard.
http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=28064.0

I can see maybe talking about the NL East or other moves and their effect on the Nats, but it'd seem Bourn to Barves, Greinke to LAD, Hamilton to Brewers, Rangers and Yankees budgets, etc... may belong in that thread.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2727: December 06, 2012, 03:04:34 PM »

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2728: December 06, 2012, 03:10:12 PM »
have they improved?  yes.

still not there yet though.  could've given burnett $8 million. 

and while we're at it, could've signed greinke AND hamilton and traded for upton and signed sanchez for depth 8)

Where?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2729: December 06, 2012, 03:25:47 PM »
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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2730: December 06, 2012, 03:29:00 PM »
I'd rather have Gorzelanny or Michael Gonzalez than JP Howell.

JCA - I defer to you on whether or not to move or delete that post about Bourn.  We need a strong leader to keep us in check and keep this place organized.  :whip:

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2731: December 06, 2012, 03:38:04 PM »
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24386289&c_id=mlb

why I want Carter Capps for morse.


Yeah, he's got nasty stuff.  Does he have any options left?  The pen is probably full with the need to start Hrod there with his lack of options.  Or does Mattheus have options?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2732: December 06, 2012, 04:17:12 PM »
Capps is still a rookie and was added to the 40 man last year at the beginning of august.  2011 draftee, 3 options left.

I'm not sure when Mattheus was first added to a 40 man roster.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2733: December 06, 2012, 04:49:41 PM »
If all it takes is 3 years, 75 mil to sign Hamilton, we should have done that.  Keep Bryce in CF for 3 years, put Morse at 1B and let LaRoche walk.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2734: December 06, 2012, 05:12:40 PM »
If all it takes is 3 years, 75 mil to sign Hamilton, we should have done that.  Keep Bryce in CF for 3 years, put Morse at 1B and let LaRoche walk.

Let's just say Hamilton is not Rizzo's kind of player.

And I'm liking the idea of saving Harper from the wear and tear of CF. Let him play the corners and bop 40 HRs a year and I'm good.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2735: December 06, 2012, 05:41:14 PM »
You could be right about Hamilton not being a 'Rizzo-type player.'

But the lineup with Hamilton in it would have been really good - basically replacing LaRoche's bat with Hamilton's.

Werth
Harper
Zim
Hamilton
Morse
Desmond
Espinosa
Ramos

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2736: December 06, 2012, 05:45:49 PM »
Let's just say Hamilton is not Rizzo's kind of player.


That's putting it mildly.  A drunk who thinks God talks to him.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2737: December 06, 2012, 06:19:04 PM »
I like Hamilton, but I don't want him on the Nats.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2738: December 06, 2012, 06:59:36 PM »
But the lineup with Hamilton in it would have been really good - basically replacing LaRoche's bat with Hamilton's.

Well, that depends what Hamilton you get. Josh Hamilton is the exact opposite hitter from Jayson Werth: swings at everything, cannot walk, and when he does make contact the ball ends up on Jupiter. That makes his hitting very, very contingent on whether or not he's "on" that week. Yeah, you'll get a month where he bats .450 and hits 12 home runs. Then you'll get a month where he's the worst hitter in baseball. The sum total is a guy you simply cannot trust when the season boils down to one game, because that elimination game might be the game where he goes 0-4 with a GIDP and two strikeouts. Which is his line from the Rangers' last game of 2012.

In my new office there's a guy working half-time, easing himself into retirement. He has season tickets to the Rangers behind home plate, in the executive seating, and when the season starts I'm gonna turn on the TV and look for him. But he says to me that he called the box office and said "If Josh Hamilton comes back, I will not renew my season tickets."

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2739: December 06, 2012, 08:02:53 PM »
That's putting it mildly.  A drunk who thinks God talks to him.

A drunk? He smoke-a de crack


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2741: December 06, 2012, 10:00:36 PM »
some juicy tidbits from mlbtr:

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One baseball source believes that no MLB team will give Adam LaRoche anything beyond a two-year deal, tweets Bill Ladson of MLB.com.  The Nationals are optimistic that they'll retain the first baseman.
If the Nationals are able to re-sign LaRoche, the source believes that they will trade Michael Morse for prospects, Ladson tweets.  The source adds that the Rays would be the best choice in trade discussions as they are loaded with pitching prospects.
The Phillies are are expected to pursue a veteran starter to fill the hole vacated by Worley in the rotation and have already been calling around, Todd Zolecki of MLB.com tweets.
Given the price that Denard Span went for, the price the Phillies paid for Revere is shocking, writes Dave Cameron of Fangraphs.  Cameron argues that the Phillies have robbed Peter to pay Paul by filling their centerfield vacancy by creating a hole in their rotation.
Keith Law of ESPN.com (Insider sub. req'd) also sees the deal as an overpay for the Phillies and expresses optimism that May can get back on the right track in Minnesota.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2742: December 06, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »
I like Hamilton, but I don't want him on the Nats.

same here.  And see an absolutely zero percent chance of our signing him.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2743: December 07, 2012, 01:01:24 PM »
You know, if we really needed a LOOGY, Sammy Solis might work

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2744: December 07, 2012, 01:03:25 PM »
Uhh, no. He's coming off TJ surgery.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2745: December 07, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »
Uhh, no. He's coming off TJ surgery.

He'll be ready to go early 2013. Just pace him for four innings a start and the bring him up. 94-95 from a lefty should be fun to watch

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2746: December 07, 2012, 02:12:27 PM »
Let's just say Hamilton is not Rizzo's kind of player.

And I'm liking the idea of saving Harper from the wear and tear of CF. Let him play the corners and bop 40 HRs a year and I'm good.

I'd be all in on the "saving the wear and tear" on Harper if he was pushing 30 or so but for crying out loud, he just turned 20. I'd think that he could safely play CF everyday for about the next 10 years w/o worrying too much about wear and tear. Injuries happen, we all know that, but geesh.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2747: December 07, 2012, 02:17:16 PM »
I'd be all in on the "saving the wear and tear" on Harper if he was pushing 30 or so but for crying out loud, he just turned 20. I'd think that he could safely play CF everyday for about the next 10 years w/o worrying too much about wear and tear. Injuries happen, we all know that, but geesh.

I would think Hamilton and his drug addled bones would be the one to play first

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2748: December 07, 2012, 04:30:44 PM »
If Davey is set on bringing Derosa back, what would Lombo net in a trade?  A hard throwing lefty reliever?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2749: December 07, 2012, 04:49:32 PM »
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