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Offline UMDNats

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1825: November 18, 2012, 10:33:42 AM »
This has got to be the most boring offseason we have had in quite a long time. When's the Rule V draft?


/checks calendar
/november 18th


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1826: November 18, 2012, 11:41:38 AM »
This has got to be the most boring offseason we have had in quite a long time. When's the Rule V draft?

Someone start the Hamilton thread already.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1827: November 18, 2012, 12:12:09 PM »
Royals willing to unload Hosmer, Gordon, Butler or Moosetacos for a quality SP.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1828: November 18, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »

When can we expect single game tickets to go on sale?  Would like to pick up some PNC seats for a few select games...

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1829: November 18, 2012, 12:33:51 PM »
Royals willing to unload Hosmer, Gordon, Butler or Moosetacos for a quality SP.

I'd listen to Gordon and then we could slide Morse over to 1B.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1830: November 18, 2012, 12:43:09 PM »
Gordon would be a solid leadoff hitter, as well.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1831: November 18, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
Someone start the Hamilton thread already.

Fire Rizzo

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1832: November 18, 2012, 01:40:24 PM »
Hosmer :az:

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1833: November 18, 2012, 02:02:42 PM »
spend money

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1834: November 18, 2012, 02:11:38 PM »
Hosmer or gordon would be great.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1835: November 18, 2012, 02:13:40 PM »
Hosmer or gordon would be great.

If they want SP,  I'm guessing the cost for home would be Zimmermann,  and no way in hell would I do that

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1836: November 18, 2012, 03:28:38 PM »
@washingnats
Negotiations between the #Nats and first baseman Adam LaRoche are going slowly, according a person familiar with the talks. #MLB

aka

Nats: Hey listen Adam we appreciate what you did last year, but we're really cheap.  Like really cheap.
LaRoche: See ya. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1837: November 18, 2012, 04:13:26 PM »
Rangers sign Scott Olsen.

I'm guessing the issue with LaRoche is years, not money.  He's probably seeking a 4 year deal and we don't want to give him more than 3.


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1838: November 18, 2012, 04:15:05 PM »
Mikey with the REAL MRS. MORSE

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1839: November 18, 2012, 04:17:26 PM »
When can we expect single game tickets to go on sale?  Would like to pick up some PNC seats for a few select games...

March.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1840: November 18, 2012, 04:25:55 PM »
@washingnats
Negotiations between the #Nats and first baseman Adam LaRoche are going slowly, according a person familiar with the talks. #MLB

aka

Nats: Hey listen Adam we appreciate what you did last year, but we're really cheap.  Like really cheap.
LaRoche: See ya.

It's not money.  It's years.  Why would the Nats give him anything over two years with an option for a third if that blocks potential high quality young talent from reaching the majors?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1841: November 18, 2012, 04:56:29 PM »
It's not money.  It's years.  Why would the Nats give him anything over two years with an option for a third if that blocks potential high quality young talent from reaching the majors?

Because he's the best option for the next two years (years where we should be contenders) and the price of having good him the next two years may be more years on the back end than you'd otherwise want (ie money since you could always eat salay and trade him after two)

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1842: November 18, 2012, 06:53:16 PM »
Sure - give him three years.  His last year, if he really slides, he becomes a very highly paid Chad Tracy.  If they keep the same team intact, they could be better than last year since they won't open the year with Ankiel in CF and they'll get 200 innings of Strasburg.  The 'pen needs to be beefed up and we still need a 5th starter.  Ryan Dempster would be good for a couple of years.

I doubt they stand pat, though.  It looks to me like they'd like an upgrade in the outfield defense from Morse to a legit defender. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1843: November 18, 2012, 07:28:30 PM »
Mikey with the REAL MRS. MORSE

Big mistake Mike .... big mistake ...

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1844: November 18, 2012, 07:31:51 PM »
Because he's the best option for the next two years (years where we should be contenders) and the price of having good him the next two years may be more years on the back end than you'd otherwise want (ie money since you could always eat salay and trade him after two)

Is he though? Do you really think he's going to repeat what he did this season? He's more likely to have a 25 homer/85 RBI season. He's going to regress to the mean at least.

In two years, we'll have Moore ready for big league pitching (if not next year), Rendon looking for a spot on the diamond to play everyday, and Brian Goodwin ready for the outfield. Two years is more than good enough. If he wants more than that, he can look elsewhere. Now is not the time to be signing more money away to guys who will be on the downward slide of their careers *coughcoughWerthcough*

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1845: November 19, 2012, 01:16:15 AM »
Is he though? Do you really think he's going to repeat what he did this season? He's more likely to have a 25 homer/85 RBI season. He's going to regress to the mean at least.

Yeah, I do, actually.   He'd been trending towards what he put up last year the past couple of years before he got hurt, iirc.  And even if he does regress to 25/85 a bit, I'll take that in a heart beat.  Keep the top of the lineup in front of him healthier than last year and he'll be just fine

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1846: November 19, 2012, 01:28:58 AM »
He has children. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1847: November 19, 2012, 08:39:22 AM »
Sure - give him three years.  His last year, if he really slides, he becomes a very highly paid Chad Tracy.  If they keep the same team intact, they could be better than last year since they won't open the year with Ankiel in CF and they'll get 200 innings of Strasburg.  The 'pen needs to be beefed up and we still need a 5th starter.  Ryan Dempster would be good for a couple of years.

I doubt they stand pat, though.  It looks to me like they'd like an upgrade in the outfield defense from Morse to a legit defender. 

what if he's demanding 4?  I do think it's worth overpaying to keep LaRoche though.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1848: November 19, 2012, 08:40:53 AM »
some MLBTR notes:

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Negotiations between the Nationals and Adam LaRoche are going slowly, a source tells MLB.com's Bill Ladson. The source also says LaRoche's top priority is to return to the Nationals, but the free agent first baseman is thinking about his two children, which is why he wants a three-year deal and has talked with several teams.
A five-year, $75MM contract might be accurate for B.J. Upton but expect Michael Bourn to seek more, tweets Dave O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Despite the declining influence of home runs to change a game, as typified by the Giants winning the World Series after slugging the fewest home runs in baseball, the Phillies still need a power surge in 2013, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer's Bob Brookover.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#4XyTc9Y6yd84axOx.99


Don't overpay for Bourn, but man if LaRoche only wants 3 years than that is a no-brainer.  3/$36.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1849: November 19, 2012, 08:58:50 AM »
Yeah, I do, actually.   He'd been trending towards what he put up last year the past couple of years before he got hurt, iirc.  And even if he does regress to 25/85 a bit, I'll take that in a heart beat.  Keep the top of the lineup in front of him healthier than last year and he'll be just fine

He's been a ~2.5 WAR player 3 out of the last 6 seasons. He'll put up a .260/.335/.470 slash with 24-26 HRs and 85-90 RBIs. And he will regress from there.

We have a lot of first base options at this point. We don't need LaRoche