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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1675: November 13, 2012, 06:43:05 PM »
WTF

What a garbage franchise


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1676: November 13, 2012, 06:43:54 PM »
I think Mock is on the Astros.

I know he sure as hell doesn't pitch for the Nats anymore!

I was joking about Mock.  Did he start for the Lastros this year?

Send them Cutter Dykstra for BGS.  BGS/Harper/Werth left to right for 2013.  In 2014 move Werth to 1B and put Goodwin in CF.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1677: November 13, 2012, 06:47:07 PM »
I love the Marlins.


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1678: November 13, 2012, 06:47:21 PM »
They just opened a new stadium.  That place is going to be empty next year.  Haha.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1679: November 13, 2012, 06:48:27 PM »
Just move to another city, this is just horrible.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1680: November 13, 2012, 06:49:45 PM »
They just opened a new stadium.  That place is going to be empty next year.  Haha.

It was empty this year

I don't know how the owners get away with this crap

Extort the city for a new stadium, spend like a sultan with no plan whatsoever, hire a total head case manager, suck ass, play in front of an empty stadium, trade away everyone

WTF - such a garbage franchise - just fold up the whole circus and move them to the mid-west or something where fans would actually give a rats ass

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1681: November 13, 2012, 06:49:47 PM »
They just opened a new stadium.  That place is going to be empty next year.  Haha.

Good thing they got the taxpayers to pay for it.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1682: November 13, 2012, 06:50:42 PM »
It's a good thing the homeless will have even more space to sleep in comfort this year!

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1683: November 13, 2012, 06:53:31 PM »
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#Marlins opened season with a payroll of roughly $100MM. After this trade, non-arb 2013 obligations will be ~ $16MM. Historic salary dump.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1684: November 13, 2012, 06:53:48 PM »
At this point, why the freak not call them about BGS? They showed that they'll trade inexpensive younger players by dealing Bonifacio.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1685: November 13, 2012, 06:54:47 PM »
The Marlins should be contracted.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1686: November 13, 2012, 06:56:37 PM »
They really should take the franchise from Loria. I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who could do worse. That's unbelievable if true.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1687: November 13, 2012, 06:57:52 PM »
I didn't feel like making a new thread for this, so I decided to post it here, was wondering if anyone here could help. If this should be moved elsewhere, let me know and I can delete this and post elsewhere.

I'm doing a project for one of my classes to visualize some data on a topic and decided to do it on some very basic stats from Nationals batters this season. One of the stats I'm trying to gather is how much money all the players to have made a PA during the 2012 season made for that season. I've got a lot of the numbers from http://www.baseball-reference.com, but I'm missing the number for a couple players. I also checked Yahoo! and ESPN but had similar difficulty finding it.

Does anyone know of any sources I might not have looked at that might have more complete salary info? The specific players I still need are Tyler Moore, Jhonatan Solano, Sandy Leon, Corey Brown, Carlos Maldonado, Eury Perez, and Zach Duke. I looked on the Nationals site and their minor affiliates and unless I glanced over it, it wasn't there either.

Obviously they're not making Ryan Zimmerman money, and if I can't get it I can just make an estimate, but I'd like the actual numbers if at all possible. Thanks in advance for anyone who might have some tips.

Back on topic, I thought Burnett was great last season and want him back, but that price tag is probably too much. Would like to see Duke in the BP next season too.


Short Answer: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=150

Has all of the salary information and guys you mentioned. With the exception of Duke, those guys get paid the MLB minimum, which I think was $500K in 2012. However, they are on a "Split contract" and get paid one amount in the minors and a prorated portion of the MLB minimum when they are in the Majors. Determining their service time and how much they earned would be a little tricky.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1688: November 13, 2012, 06:58:03 PM »
What really is the point in keeping Stanton?  He's going to be surrounded by garbage.  Rizzo should get on the phone!

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1689: November 13, 2012, 06:59:57 PM »
What really is the point in keeping Stanton?  He's going to be surrounded by garbage.  Rizzo should get on the phone!

https://twitter.com/Giancarlo818/status/268502933832888322

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1690: November 13, 2012, 07:02:09 PM »
What would it take to get Stanton?  Rendon, Goodwin, and Meyer?  Replace one of those guys with Espinosa?  Or add Espinosa/Desmond? 

Harper and Stanton in the same outfield would be unbelievable.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1691: November 13, 2012, 07:03:58 PM »
@Giancarlo818: Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple



Come to DC!!


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1693: November 13, 2012, 07:11:12 PM »
Quote from: MLBTR
5:58pm: The Marlins will get Marisnick or Anthony Gose, as well as a catcher in J.P. Arencibia, Bobby Wilson or Jeff Mathis, Morosi tweets.

Don't fear, Marlins fans! You might get Jeff Mathis!

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1694: November 13, 2012, 07:11:49 PM »
Don't fear, Marlins fans! You might get Jeff Mathis!


Is he the cheapest?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1695: November 13, 2012, 07:12:24 PM »
What's the record for intentional walks?

BGS about to break it.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1696: November 13, 2012, 07:12:50 PM »
Is he the cheapest?
Wilson is probably cheapest. Arencibia is going to hit arby soon I think, and since he's actually a decent player, he'll get paid a little bit of money, so he's a big no-no.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1697: November 13, 2012, 07:17:31 PM »
Quote from: Amanda Comak
Davey on the Manager of the Year conference call says he wishes the #Marlins would send the HR sculpture to Toronto, too.
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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1699: November 13, 2012, 07:20:06 PM »
BGS should publicly request a trade.