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Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1150: November 03, 2012, 10:43:55 AM »
why would seattle want someone who is unproven and yet they'd have to give up a big pitching prospect?

i like rendon, but this isn't fantasy.

It would be a prospect for prospect trade - not very common, I know.  But they have plenty of pitching prospects and not so many hitting prospects.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1151: November 03, 2012, 11:07:14 AM »
Kilgore on Jackson:

This smells like a sweetheart deal last year with Boras.  By not offering a QO, it probably adds a few million to Jackson's offers.  A team like the Angels or Baltimore could bring him in and not lose a middling 1st round pick.


I hadn't thought of that.  That's interesting.  Maybe we could work something similar out with another Boras client for next year.  If the Nats strike out on Greinke or Sanchez, are there any other Boras clients, besides Jackson himself, that would come here to be the #4/5 next year on a 1 year deal?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1152: November 03, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »
Jackson is probably furious -  he lost a lot of money coming here last year,  I'd be shocked if he ever sees a deal like the ones he turned down again

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1153: November 03, 2012, 11:45:09 AM »
Jackson is probably furious -  he lost a lot of money coming here last year,  I'd be shocked if he ever sees a deal like the ones he turned down again

he was pretty damn serviceable last year, just not in the playoffs.  he's going to make a good chunk of change this offseason, no doubt. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1154: November 03, 2012, 01:31:51 PM »
Indians trade RP Esmil Rodgers to the Blue Jays for IF Mike Aviles and and IF/C Yan Gomes.

The same Aviles who was traded to the Blue Jays for manager John Farrell.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1155: November 03, 2012, 01:36:21 PM »
2B and SP please

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1156: November 03, 2012, 01:39:58 PM »
2B and SP please

If Espi gets traded then the 2B will almost definitely be lombo until Rendon is ready come June.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1157: November 03, 2012, 01:44:58 PM »
If Espi gets traded then the 2B will almost definitely be lombo until Rendon is ready come June.

And the Nats would be worse off because of it.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1158: November 03, 2012, 01:46:56 PM »
Lol espy isn't getting traded.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1159: November 03, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »
I hadn't thought of that.  That's interesting.  Maybe we could work something similar out with another Boras client for next year.  If the Nats strike out on Greinke or Sanchez, are there any other Boras clients, besides Jackson himself, that would come here to be the #4/5 next year on a 1 year deal?

Jackson is no longer a Boras client.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1160: November 03, 2012, 01:55:58 PM »
The nats will need to get Rendon in the lineup.  I think there is a very good chance Espi gets traded this offeason.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1161: November 03, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »
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Mike Gonzalez didn't find a home for 2012 until May, but interest in the left-hander is plentiful this offseason. He told James Wagner of The Washington Post that about ten teams have already expressed interest in his services, but his top priority is staying with the Nationals.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1162: November 03, 2012, 02:05:46 PM »
Kilgore on Jackson:

This smells like a sweetheart deal last year with Boras.  By not offering a QO, it probably adds a few million to Jackson's offers.  A team like the Angels or Baltimore could bring him in and not lose a middling 1st round pick.

It's a balancing act, once you put that qualifying offer out there, you have to be ready for Edwin to take it at $13.3m. Also note that maybe other teams think Edwin isn't worth $13M AND a draft pick. So, if you really want him, make the QO and be prepared that he takes it. But if you have a different plan, don't make the QO because Edwin may take it.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1163: November 03, 2012, 02:24:20 PM »
I want Mike Gonzalez* back.  I thought he played well.




*this is coming from the biggest Orioles fan in the world and remember he was bad for my team.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1164: November 03, 2012, 02:27:41 PM »
Rendon is not going to play 2B. It's not happening.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1165: November 03, 2012, 03:38:55 PM »
[hammondsnats] Let's get Brian Roberts amirite [/hammondsnats]

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1166: November 03, 2012, 03:57:46 PM »
Rendon is not going to play 2B. baseball. It's not happening.


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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1167: November 03, 2012, 04:03:08 PM »
josh hamilton ... let's give him 11 years/$560 million.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1168: November 03, 2012, 04:29:33 PM »
He dropped Boras didn't he?



I think so, but this might have been the deal last year.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1169: November 03, 2012, 04:40:25 PM »
josh hamilton ... let's give him 11 years/$560 million.

In Rizzo we trust nages!

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1170: November 03, 2012, 06:31:12 PM »
No to Josh Hamilton

560 million times no

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1171: November 03, 2012, 06:35:17 PM »
No to Josh Hamilton

560 million times no

$561 million, let's do it.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1173: November 03, 2012, 07:07:14 PM »
The more I think about it, the more I think the Nats should stand pat in CF.
http://thenationals.tumblr.com/post/34933064969/cf-in-2013

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #1174: November 03, 2012, 07:11:24 PM »
I don't know why everyone is so set on moving Harper out of center.