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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2575: December 03, 2012, 08:45:02 PM »
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Could the Rays trade Wade Davis for Lombo and Morse?  I'd do that.  Davis has team options until 2017.  Or Morse and a prospect (Skole?).

would they need another 1B now that they have Loney?

The market for 1Bs just got a whole lot smaller today with Napoli and Loney signing deals.  I could see Texas wanting Morse though.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2576: December 03, 2012, 08:46:31 PM »
would they need another 1B now that they have Loney?

The market for 1Bs just got a whole lot smaller today with Napoli and Loney signing deals.  I could see Texas wanting Morse though.

Morse would DH.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2577: December 03, 2012, 08:47:23 PM »
this might have been covered earlier, but I'm a bit behind, I listened to mlb on XM for about 4 hours this afternoon, they seemed to discount any talk of the Nationals trading Espinosa to the Rays saying both sides had shot it down.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2578: December 03, 2012, 08:50:04 PM »
this might have been covered earlier, but I'm a bit behind, I listened to mlb on XM for about 4 hours this afternoon, they seemed to discount any talk of the Nationals trading Espinosa to the Rays saying both sides had shot it down.

Rizzo also said he didn't call anyone, he just fielded calls from other teams.  If that's true, the Rays probably called about Espinosa and Morse for Shields.  Rizzo probably said Morse only.  Talks probably stopped there.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2579: December 03, 2012, 08:50:59 PM »
Zuck's latest - http://www.natsinsider.com/2012/12/waiting-to-pounce.html

CW seems to think we're going to keep LaRoche.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2580: December 03, 2012, 08:59:11 PM »
Zuck's latest - http://www.natsinsider.com/2012/12/waiting-to-pounce.html

CW seems to think we're going to keep LaRoche.


Who is CW?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2582: December 03, 2012, 09:04:14 PM »
Let LaRoche go and sign Greinke.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2583: December 03, 2012, 09:23:41 PM »
Let LaRoche go and sign Greinke.

that would be a pretty bueno situation

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2584: December 03, 2012, 09:26:46 PM »
Kilgore says the Nats don't want to spend big bucks on Burnett:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2012/12/03/mike-rizzo-on-sean-burnett-not-a-fit-financially-right-now/

I can't argue with this one, Sean seemed to have a rough time of it over the 2nd half.  Still, the market for LH relieves is pretty small so he'll get his money.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2585: December 03, 2012, 09:33:20 PM »
Give me JP Howell and I'll be happy.

Also Bill bray had a very solid year in 2011 so he could turn out to be a good signing.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2586: December 03, 2012, 09:44:02 PM »
Give me JP Howell and I'll be happy.

Also Bill bray had a very solid year in 2011 so he could turn out to be a good signing.

Bray is a very good pitcher, who can't stay healthy

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2587: December 03, 2012, 10:12:35 PM »
What if JP Howell wants three years?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2588: December 03, 2012, 10:30:28 PM »
What if JP Howell wants three years?

I don't know, that's Rizzo's problem.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2589: December 04, 2012, 09:11:20 AM »
Bray is a very good pitcher, who can't stay healthy

Funky delivery.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2590: December 04, 2012, 09:21:51 AM »
Good article on the Nat's plight to find a 5th starter- though all the points have been covered by you guys at one time or another.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/nationals-mike-rizzo-in-search-of-their-kind-of-fifth-starter/2012/12/03/3d7aa56c-3dab-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2591: December 04, 2012, 10:12:39 AM »
MLBTR again says O's are interested in Morse.  Matusz could be a decent return.  Maybe he figures something out and becomes a decent starter.  Nats have another tall lefty, Detwiler, who took a while.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2592: December 04, 2012, 10:21:07 AM »
MLBTR again says O's are interested in Morse.  Matusz could be a decent return.  Maybe he figures something out and becomes a decent starter.  Nats have another tall lefty, Detwiler, who took a while.

No.  For all reasons, just no.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2593: December 04, 2012, 10:21:45 AM »
No thank you to Matusz.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2594: December 04, 2012, 10:29:19 AM »
MLBTR again says O's are interested in Morse.  Matusz could be a decent return.  Maybe he figures something out and becomes a decent starter.  Nats have another tall lefty, Detwiler, who took a while.

Not trading a guy who has figured it out for one who might

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2595: December 04, 2012, 12:20:03 PM »
If the Nats trade Ah-Ha to the woes I'm gonna go turncoat and buy some orange stuff. Do they have a loft in Brawltimore?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2596: December 04, 2012, 12:30:32 PM »
Ask hammonds.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2597: December 04, 2012, 12:30:48 PM »
Ha, OK so that proposal is a bust among Nats fans, apparently.  Matusz has some talent, though.  They are probably saying the same things about him in Baltimore that we were saying in DC about Detwiler prior to 2012.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2598: December 04, 2012, 12:32:03 PM »
not high on matusz.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #2599: December 04, 2012, 01:33:03 PM »
Matusz has had chances to start and has done nothing with them, however, from what I can remember, he was lights out as a reliever towards the end of the year. That's probably where his future is IMO, especially in Baltimore.