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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #25: October 07, 2012, 11:00:30 PM »
If he can't hit then why not start lombo over him?  It's crunch time and you can't go with your starters just because.  Performance is key.

In total, Danny's a better player.  He's proven that over the course of the season.

Offline zimm_da_kid

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #26: October 07, 2012, 11:01:52 PM »
Because as I said in the gameday thread... you'd be starting an inferior player over Espinosa. That wouldn't help anything.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one i guess. :)

Offline SkinsNDeacs

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #27: October 07, 2012, 11:26:45 PM »
The good Danny is infinitely better than Lombo.

Offline Ray D

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #28: October 08, 2012, 07:53:29 AM »
I don't think Davey would lie about it in the presser.

Davey is not the type to lie in a press conference but he is less likely to have called that play so I conclude that this is one of those rare times that he lied.  he is too smart to have called that play and Espinosa is just dumb enough to have done it on his own.   I mean, if he called a bunt, was it supposed to be a squeeze, safety squeeze, bunt the runner at second over, or bunt for hit.   Not the first two, because Morse never got the memo. Not the third, because Davey isn't that dumb.  No, Espinosa was bunting for a hit, on his own. 

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #29: October 08, 2012, 08:00:45 AM »
You don't square early for a bunt base hit.

Just maybe Davey did call it.

Offline Ray D

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #30: October 08, 2012, 08:08:44 AM »
You don't square early for a bunt base hit.

Yes, it was a  very poorly executed bunt on all fronts.

Offline Slateman

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« Reply #31: October 08, 2012, 08:58:19 AM »
Yes, it was a  very poorly executed bunt on all fronts.


Yea, except for the part where it did exactly what Davey wanted.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #32: October 08, 2012, 09:06:33 AM »
Yea, except for the part where it did exactly what Davey wanted.

This.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #33: October 08, 2012, 09:26:55 AM »
It's much more likely that it was a safety squeeze called from the dugout and Morse missed the sign or maybe was even told to hold unless the bunt gets further away from the plate

Whatever

It's fine, got the runner to second and scored on Moore's hit - alls well that ends well

Offline RD

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #34: October 08, 2012, 10:58:25 AM »
I don't buy that Davey called it either. If Danny bunts it foul, he's down 0-2 and we know that outcome. If Davey was calling for it, he does it first pitch. That at least gives you other options(bunt again, let him swing away down 0-1 isn't bad, but 0-2 is) for the rest of the at bat. I think Davey was protecting Danny.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #35: October 08, 2012, 11:00:46 AM »
Danny is a .230 hitter with some power and great defense.  He is just overshadowed by Ean's totally dominance. At least we don't have Descalso, that guy is an AWFUL hitter.

I do think he should stop switch hitting. Most switch hitters are deluded platoon guys who kind of run fast.

Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #36: October 08, 2012, 11:13:36 AM »
Danny is a .230 hitter with some power and great defense.  He is just overshadowed by Ean's totally dominance. At least we don't have Descalso, that guy is an AWFUL hitter.

I do think he should stop switch hitting. Most switch hitters are deluded platoon guys who kind of run fast.

They said the same thing about Chipper Jones early in his career too.

Offline Slateman

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #37: October 08, 2012, 11:19:29 AM »
Gotta dance with the one that got you here. He plays really good defense. It's up to Davey to minimize his rally killing potential at the plate. Like he did yesterday with the bunt.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #38: October 08, 2012, 11:45:18 AM »
Lombo and Danny are about equal in defense, although Danny has a stronger arm. I'd rather have Lombo getting base-hits than Danny striking out. Espi has trouble with curves...too often swings and misses the pitch that dives into the dirt.


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Re: Danny?
« Reply #39: October 08, 2012, 12:13:03 PM »
What about this did we not know before the game?  Danny is mostly famine, occasionally feast hitter as a lefty.  I was kind of surprised that he has 14 HRs from the left side and only 3 from the right side (have not checked the split stats lately). He's in the line up because we need one more left with occasional pop to avoid a team like St L just throwing righties at us.  That, and he is one of the best defensive middle infielders in the game. 

Plenty of teams have a good glove, no stick infielder at one of the up the middle positions. Usually it's the SS, but for us it is the 2d baseman.  Oh, and if you are an batting average guy and don't care about walks, he was a .250 hitter until the last game or two of the year, and ended the regular season at .247.  Also, it's unfair to call him no stick with that pop and base stealing speed.  He has 2 of the 3 offensive tools - speed and power. 

As for Lombo, he's steadier, but has less range and a substantially lesser arm.  He's a nice contact guy who no pitcher is ever afraid to throw a strike to because he almost never will hurt you deep.  He does not walk not because he is anxious or has a bad eye, but because why throw him a ball when he can't hurt you with contact?  He does have a better OBP than Danny - .317 v. .315.  Classic case of the back up quarterback. 

All this, I'm not oblivious to Danny's poor pitch selection when he's going bad.  I can't imagine that was where he was supposed to place the bunt.  Perhaps it was a safety squeeze and Morse did not break once he saw how bad the bunt was?

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #40: October 08, 2012, 05:44:16 PM »
Couldn't have said it better, JCA.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #41: October 08, 2012, 06:17:16 PM »
The problem is that Lombo is almost the mirror of Danny, with Danny being better right-handed than Lombo is left-handed. Danny's overalls are worse due to the fact that there are more RHPs.

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #42: October 08, 2012, 10:01:02 PM »
I think that Granderson is his ceiling as a hitter - 43 homers, .235 average, wow

Offline capsmp

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #43: October 08, 2012, 10:05:14 PM »
I just don't like the guy. He is definitely good defensively(bad play today but it happens), but there is just something about him that makes me not like him. I had the same feeling for Jeff Schultz on the Caps before everyone jumped on that wagon.
At least right now, he looks like he has no confidence at the plate.

He's the only Nats player that i've disliked all year. So no, i'm not a negative nancy about everything.

Offline NatsTheFats

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« Reply #44: October 08, 2012, 10:11:56 PM »
Color me shocked.

Any chance Davey is protecting Danny?

I think this might be the case.  They stuck with desi through bad times and look how that turned out.  My hunch is that they feel the same about Espi.

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« Reply #45: October 08, 2012, 10:13:50 PM »
I think this might be the case.  They stuck with desi through bad times and look how that turned out.  My hunch is that they feel the same about Espi.
I hope that's the case. He has some great tools to build on. Just needs to drink whatever Suzuki had when he got here.

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #46: October 08, 2012, 10:16:29 PM »
I think this might be the case.  They stuck with desi through bad times and look how that turned out.  My hunch is that they feel the same about Espi.

His bunt today showed that Davey is protecting him.

Offline NatsTheFats

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« Reply #47: October 08, 2012, 10:53:52 PM »
Yep.  While the Nats are definitely playing, and in contention, for a title this year, I think Davey and Rizzo are still sticking to their guns about building for 2013. 


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Re: Danny?
« Reply #48: October 09, 2012, 08:22:30 AM »
If he gets down that game 2 bunt in game 1, Morse breaks home.  Instead, it was a weak bunt right in front of the plate, so Morse held.  Isn't that pretty much a safety squeeze?  Wait til the bunt is down before you break?  Davey might have been dissembling about calling just for a sacrifice to move the winning run to 2d rather than a squeeze, but I guessing that morse knew what was coming and decided to hold when he saw the bunt.

Offline Ray D

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Re: Danny?
« Reply #49: October 09, 2012, 08:38:54 AM »
Instead, it was a weak bunt right in front of the plate, so Morse held.  Isn't that pretty much a safety squeeze? 

If it was a safety squeeze Morse didn't get the memo. You can see on the replay that he never strayed more than a few feet from third and that he seemed surprised that Espinosa bunted.  On a safety squeeze the runner is suppose to go at least a quarter of the way before deciding whether to go or retreat.   But nobody mentioned Morse not picking up the sign. So if it was a safety squeeze then they are protecting Morse.  I'm still convinced he did it on his own.