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Offline RobDibblesGhost

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I thought there might be some issues, but this is just getting crazy.   And I love it! :lmao:

Here are two more articles from the past 24 hours for your reading pleasure:


Apparently owner Jeffrey Loria is angry at manager Ozzie Guillen for comments Guillen made that were critical of Loria, according to a person who has spoken with Marlins officials.

Exactly what Guillen said that ticked Loria off is not clear.

But Loria didn’t like being, in the source’s words, “called out” by Guillen.

On Friday in New York, Guillen told reporters: “If Jeffrey doesn’t think I’m doing the job I should do … it’s not the first time he’s fired a manager,” Guillen said. “Look yourself in the mirror and ask why so many (bleeping) managers come through here.”

Last weekend, Guillen told reporters in Miami: “When you are in last place you need a better manager, better general manager, better owner, a better everything when you are a last-place team because we all failed.”

Guillen also said that day: “Whoever works for the Marlins and denies that he should be fired is full of (expletive). My coaches, myself, the front office, my players, we’re all involved in this thing. We all failed. And we’ve got to be better. Hopefully we learn by the mistakes we made and we move on.

“I can see good things happen soon. How soon is it going to be. The players will dictate how soon it’s going to be. Everybody in this ball club should look at themselves in the mirror.”

The general feeling around the Marlins the past few days is that baseball operations president Larry Beinfest’s job is safe and that Guillen is on the hot seat, which has been reported by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Miami Herald and

On Thursday, USA Today reported that Beinfest would be fired and that Guillen appeared to be safe.

Now, it appears as though Beinfest is safe and that Guillen might not return next year, the source confirmed. The source put the likelihood of Guillen not being back at “75-25,” based on his conversations with Marlins officials.

Again, it’s not clear which of Guillen’s remarks angered Loria. Guillen was on shaky ground before the team got to New York on Thursday’s off-day.

But if Guillen’s comment on Friday — that Loria should look at himself in the mirror about all the managers coming through Miami — was the culprit, it might end up being enough to prompt Loria to fire him after the season.

If that’s the case, it reminds me of Loria’s clashes in 2006 with manager Joe Girardi, who was fired and re-hired the same day after exchanging words with Loria during a game in August.

Girardi was fired after the season, then won the NL Manager of the year Award.

The Marlins have had six different managers since Loria took control of the team in 2002.

NEW YORK -- Jeffrey Loria is outraged with Fredi Gonzalez’s published comments in which the former Marlins manager said that no manager ever seems to please the owner.

Gonzalez, who manages the Atlanta Braves, was quoted in Sunday’s Miami Herald as saying: “There’s not a manager dead or alive that Jeffrey thinks is good enough. Not Connie Mack, not anyone.”

Loria said that if Gonzalez made those comments, “I’m a little surprised because it’s classless — and you can quote me — especially because he was with us for five years and he was a colossal failure. Not nice. Not nice.”

In a text message Sunday night, Gonzalez indicated he stood by his comments.

Loria expressed his feelings to reporters as they waited outside the clubhouse following the team’s 3-2 loss to the Mets on Sunday. Gonzalez managed the Marlins from 2007-10, going 276-279.

The last two winning Marlins teams, in 2008 and ’09, were managed by Gonzalez. But Gonzalez was fired in June 2010, after the team got off to a 34-36 start.

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